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It's looking like a dud. My current game plan is to try my old Celeron G540 in the Gigabyte Z77 board, and to then try the 3770k in my old H61 board. If the Celeron is stable with a stock cooler in the Z77 and the 3770k is unstable in the H61, then I'll know it's the CPU. If the Celeron's unstable and the i7 is stable, then the board should be the problem. And if both are stable after the swap, my head will explode. rolleyes.gif The only thing that I can't test is the power supply--anyone know if that could be the issue here?

Hopefully Intel's RMA process is painless.
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This has got me in a funk. Here are my findings after more testing:

G540 + z77 + GPU = stable
G540 + h61 + GPU = stable
3770k + h61 + no GPU = stable
3770k + h61 + gpu = does not POST, beeps indicate "no VGA device detected"
i7-3770k + z77 = unstable, with or without GPU
Also, based on a few PassMark tests and my GFlop rating in IBT, the 3770k seems to be underperforming under all circumstances.

Does this seem like a PSU issue to you guys?
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This has got me in a funk. Here are my findings after more testing:
G540 + z77 + GPU = stable
G540 + h61 + GPU = stable
3770k + h61 + no GPU = stable
3770k + h61 + gpu = does not POST, beeps indicate "no VGA device detected"
i7-3770k + z77 = unstable, with or without GPU
Also, based on a few PassMark tests and my GFlop rating in IBT, the 3770k seems to be underperforming under all circumstances.
Does this seem like a PSU issue to you guys?

Maybe.. Get another PSU and test it?
Sounds like a bit of a shoddy i7 to me.. Maybe you should return it and get a new one, if that still fails I'd say it's the PSU or the RAM even?

EDIT: Try single sticks of RAM too.. What was the PSU again?

EDIT2: I had a look online.. this, doesn't seem too good. The PSU can output a max of 382w or so, your system from a calculator takes about 360w, that was with a 3770k, 7950, 4 Sticks of DDR3, 2 HDD's and an SSD with no fans either. So I'd say it could be a PSU problem at the same time as it possibly being a CPU problem, can you get a better PSU to test it with or test it with only one HDD/SSD attached with just onboard graphics? That will eliminate the "PSU" not being good enough, it'll also test to see if the IGP works as opposed to what the H61 is saying.

Though this doesn't eliminate it being a shoddy PSU, you should possibly get something better then that unit for the long run even if it doesn't turn out to be that. Do you know anyone else that's into computers that you could borrow a known-working PSU off?
Edited by Matt-Matt - 12/4/12 at 2:40am
 
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Take out the 7950 and run the iGPU on the i7 for now - that should tell you if it's a lack of wattage from the PSU - you need a bigger PSU for that rig even if it's the issue.

If you're still having issues after trying the iGPU - exchange the i7 for a new one. It shouldn't take all this voltage and VRM tweaking to get it to run stable at stock clocks!
     
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What program are you using to monitor temps? If you are using stock/oem software (and unless im mistaken) then your actual core temps are going to be higher than what is showing. Could explain why you can't break 50~C
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Update: I bought a new 850W PSU to give myself more headroom (I had a bunch of hard drives I hadn't put in the build yet). The system is still unstable with the new PSU. Here's a recap of my findings thus far:
  • 3770k + no GPU + H61 = stable
  • 3770k + GPU + H61 (old PSU) = did not boot, motherboard error code indicates GPU does not have enough power (have not tested this config with new PSU yet)
  • G540 + GPU + Z77 = stable
  • 3770k + GPU or no GPU + Z77 (both old PSU and new PSU) = unstable
My current game plan is to RMA the motherboard, unless you guys have some other suggestions. What a headache!
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What new PSU did you purchase?
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What new PSU did you purchase?

Thermaltake "Black Widow" 850W. I quite like it, especially for the price ($70 shipped after rebate). 80+, 5-year warranty, modular except for the 24-pin and 8-pin. The marketing for it is a bit over the top with the word "gaming" plastered everywhere, but it seems like a quality PSU thus far.
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Thermaltake "Black Widow" 850W. I quite like it, especially for the price ($70 shipped after rebate). 80+, 5-year warranty, modular except for the 24-pin and 8-pin. The marketing for it is a bit over the top with the word "gaming" plastered everywhere, but it seems like a quality PSU thus far.

Yeah that's definitely plenty.. I'd probably try the motherboard like you said before.
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This is a bit of a necropost at this point, but to follow up on my problem: the issue was with the motherboard. Also relevant: Gigabyte has some of the worst support I've ever dealt with. I went above and beyond with my description of the problems I was having--I included a detailed description with the RMA form on their website, as well as a printed copy in the box with the motherboard. Yet when I called their support line after a few weeks of waiting, the rep informed me that my board was due to be shipped right back the next day, with literally nothing done to it, simply because it "booted up just fine". What?! "[this is] standard procedure." That's very helpful, Mr. Representative, who I had to argue with just to get a "refurbished" replacement (read: one that someone else sent in with problems which they probably couldn't or didn't diagnose). Then, when all of this was said and done, the guy just hangs up on me mid-sentence. When I called back, he did the same thing again. I've dealt with this sort of thing with ASUS in the past--long story short, I'll never buy another relatively-expensive Gigabyte motherboard, nor will I ever buy another ASUS motherboard of any sort. I ended up building a new machine and going with a workstation board, a Supermicro X9SAE-V, and I couldn't be happier with both the quality of the product and their amazing support.
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