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What's a virus?

Directly from Wiki itself...
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A virus is a small infectious agent that can replicate only inside the living cells of an organism.

I think he was being sarcastic.
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I don't run an antivirus, personally, but if I were to, it would be MSE. Say what you want, but MSE probably won't damage your system -- take note of the false positives score.

I've had far more damage done to my OS by antiviruses (and I've tried many) over the years than viruses by falsely targeting critical system files and the like. In fact, I've only ever had one virus damage my system, and it was because the person using my PC at the time thought they really won a trip to Vegas for being the "203995th user!"

Now, if I absolutely had to take the risk of running AV software again, I'd be fine with 64% zero-day protection. Those are good odds, when you counter-weigh the fact that non-Microsoft AV software dismantles your OS piece by piece.


Edit: It's worth adding that I even expect MSE to cause issues from false positives, because who knows what MSE will think of the drivers you just installed, or the latest updates to Java. Just leave my files alone, thanks. But still, if I had to choose, I'd choose the one that comes from the people most familiar with my critical OS files.
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I've always recommended MSE, though, I guess it isnt too great anymore. I'm stil going to use it, tho. Honestly, if youre smart with your computer, you shouldnt get any viruses at all. So with common sense, I shouldnt get any virus. And paired with Adblock+ and scheduled malwarebytes and superantispyware scans, the is no way im getting infected.
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Meh, jumped to Avast.
Edited by HybridCore - 12/1/12 at 3:18pm
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and I've said for ages that MSE is trash based on these tests but the fanboys still refused to listen.
The best legally free ones are AVG Free and Avast Free. As Avast has been nagware as of late, I'd go for AVG Free.

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Yep, i remember the thread when you and me tried to explain on average joe users who are not into security stuff that its lagging and you got alot better free products to use, but no one listened.
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every week there is a MSE update. I still will use it because it's easy to use compared to the others.
Once a week is pretty poor as new infections pop up just about ever hour of the day. The anitvirus at work checks for updates at least 8 times a day and 9 times out of 10 there is an update.
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source: https://hitmanpro.wordpress.com/
The best malware, as noted by the above link, is very complex and invisible to the end user. Those who say 'common sense' is the only form of security are deluding themselves. It's a form of security, but a far from foolproof one. Most malware is actually from program vulnerabilities and attacks planted on common websites like Facebook ads and as noted above, highly popular 'innocent' websites like newspaper websites. You don't have to be doing anything 'unusual' at all. The sooner that myth dies, the better.
Darkpriest, you do realise there are massive difference between OS exploits and 3rd party program exploits? Not to mention what happens to 0-day malware? MSE's heuristics engines sucks crap. Everyone knows it but MS don't bother.
Please don't tell me you use CCleaner or any other registry cleaner as well, you just contradicted your whole argument if you do as well, you'd rather trust the registry to MS right surely?

This guy gets it, as an certified ethical hacker I know just how easy it is to get infected just by going to a normal everyday site without proper protection. Heck I could infect the home page of OCN and those that have poor protection (MSE, Norton, Mcaffee) or none at all wouldn't notice at all, of course I choose not to because it's not in my code of conduct and I would like to remain on this site.
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Once a week is pretty poor as new infections pop up just about ever hour of the day. The anitvirus at work checks for updates at least 8 times a day and 9 times out of 10 there is an update.

I usually get one every day or so. Not sure what he's talking about.
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No surprise. It IS a microsoft product.skull.gif

There are far better products out there.......except Norton....that is garbage as well IMHO.
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I only use Eset
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Eset is average also.

Avast + Comodo - best from free products.

Paid, Norton, Kaspersky, Emsisoft.
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