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Is there any difference between Windows Defender and MSE? These test were conducted on Win 7, while Win 8 uses Windows Defender.
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Is there any difference between Windows Defender and MSE? These test were conducted on Win 7, while Win 8 uses Windows Defender.

Windows defender in Win8 is MSE. So if you use MSE in Win7 you are essentially using Win8's windows defender, or vice versa. Windows defender in Win7 of course is totally different.
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been using MSE on all my computers for years with out an issue.

hope MS jumps on this and gets it fixed asap!
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Haven't tried those lately (in years), but I can't take these results seriously.
Its just that 102 seems like a very low sample to me, especially compared to the rest of the tests. Apparently those remaining 272.799 were detected 100% of the time. I don't see myself removing MSE because of this, at least until I see some more reliable testing.
I use a combination of four separate programs, Comodo Firewall and MSE (24/7), Spybot S&D regularly and MBAM monthly (on a schedule). So far I have yet to run into any sort of complications. Also, proper common sense when using a computer will help you more than the best AV suite.
1 - Don't run unknown .exe files
2 - If the same program is available on a more reliable site, use that one instead
3 - If its too good to be true its a virus
4 - You are NOT the 1.000.000 viewer, the prize is a LIE (just use adblock+)
5 - NO, you can't lose that much weight / enlarge your d*** / get a free iPad
6 - If you really must run it then sandbox it
7 - If a program that isn't supposed (or you don't trust) to have access to your internet connection / user settings / etc asks for it, deny and uninstall
8 - Never select default installation, always select Advanced Installation so you don't get flooded with free toolbars / crapware
9 - Learn how to google efficiently (most of the time its how you come to shady sites, by googling the wrong terms) and by the results on the search page, at a glance, tell if that site is of interest or if it just has a list of random tags with your search terms on it
10 - Before you click a link, see where it leads to by checking the bottom of the page, be wary of random links or comments even on reputable sites
This should be common knowledge to everyone near a computer (except maybe the sandbox part, but hopefully we're getting there).

I want a free ipad!!!!!!

lol

But I've only had 1 virus on my 3 PC's in a span of about 7 years. Came through on a windows update so I didn't catch it, ruined my OS so had to do a reformat. Other than that I've never had a problem with MSE. Maybe false sense of security? who knows. But I'll be on windows 8 here soon so hopefully that will keep me away from any virus's. I only go to sites I really know well on the internet when browsing.
I know from experience that Crackafee is horrible! On my mom's laptop it will disconnect the internet like half the time, its so dumb.
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I use MSE and Comodo Firewall, haven't had a virus for a good 3 years (previously using Symantec until January last year. Until someone comes up with a lightweight AV suite that only does what it needs to do (protect from viruses/malware) without other crap thrown in and without slowing my system to a crawl when it decides to scan (looking at YOU, Norton ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)), I'll continue using MSE.
 
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well, guess what, yep you guessed it, im still sticking with MSE.
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I use Windows 8's default antivirus (basically all the features of MSE) and I have MBAM scheduled to run once a week. When I used WIndows 7, I had MSE and I haven't gotten any malware in years.
The trick is to think twice about what you download...there really isn't any elusive secret method to keeping your PC clean.

This i agree. I too had MSE for many years too and haven't caught an virus from anywhere *knocks on wood* and it does depend where you browse too. Yes this is the internet and no matter where you go you ain't safe unless you have a anti-virus running to protect ya. I just hope they look into this and get this sorted out cuz i always liked MSE.
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If you have any idea what your are doing, AV is of limited utility. If you don't know what your are doing AV probably can't help you much anyway.

I've never run a persistent AV on my personal systems, and have some systems that go years between scans, with nary a threat found when they are scanned.
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been using MSE on all my computers for years with out an issue.

I've been using nothing on all of my computers for decades without an issue.

MSE = more or less nothing with a few more clicks and a larger footprint.
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well, guess what, yep you guessed it, im still sticking with MSE.

Even though it's often useless? What's the point?
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Guess I am switching back to Avast.
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I havent seen a virus in 8 years on my own hardware. I run mse just in case, but anything with a subscription would be horrifically annoying. Kaspersky at work has caused nothing but problems. At work I recommend mse because it never expires and most people who catch viruses have expired antivirus.
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