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Not really sure how to start polls, i think you have to start a new thread, also you cant go wrong with the 830's, the M4 is also good from what i hear, the writes arent the best but they are consistent.
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830 writes are just about the same. the price essentially caps your write speed in my opinion. ( if you want to think of it in a direct price/performance kind of way)
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According to the SSD Performance Hierarchy Chart over at Tom's, the Corsair Force GS is a Tier 1 drive and the Crucial m4 is a Tier 3 drive.

The main differences between the two is that the GS uses a Sandforce controller and toggle NAND while the m4 uses a Marvell controller and synchronous NAND. Whether or not these differences are detectable outside of synthetic benchmarks or massive disk-intensive activities, such as video editing, is debatable.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233395

this drive has way better read, write and IOPS than the 830 I have both the force 3 and the 830 SSD's and they are about the same to me, the 840 pro and the force GS are a step up to me. The toggle NAND being the difference.
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I use a 3770K, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM and an AMD FirePro V7900 (AMD recently replaced this with the FirePro W7000) on an ASRock Z77 Extreme4 mobo. That combination is great for what I do using Maya, Mudbox, Photoshop and After Effects. I'm not entirely sure about ZBrush, but I know that Mudbox is not a strain on the CPU and my V7900 shows high-res models perfectly well in both Maya and Mudbox. As far as I know ZBrush uses both the GPU and CPU to do its job, but the 3770K is probably the best for price/performance ratio.

You won't need an immense CPU unless you plan on doing lots of rendering in your 3D application, the GPU is more important (Maya, Mudbox, Photoshop and After Effects among many others use the GPU to accelerate certain processes).

16GB of RAM minimum is a necessity, composting software like After Effects and Photshop can be very RAM hungry.

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I have also seen these drives ( CFs3) i GS n many builds-



But why aren't the purchases apparent for instance on the newegg website?

Usually there is a herd like following that can be tracked in buyer usage, at least in some form.

The samsung 830 and 840 pro have a significantly higher response rate via users, if you say go to amazon or newegg you will see upwards of 300 revs on the subject.

There is even a poll on overclock.net and the samsung drives are by a large gap the main choice amongst users, in terms of price point, reliability, and speed.

When the 830's dropped below 100$ for a 128gb drive people jumped on it. I can even assume literally depending on the store. biggrin.gif



Agreed, CFs 3 GS have a higher r/w listed, as well as 4k write. These are the "go to specs".

I have read back when sandforce and OCZ drives had issues with firmware and overall longevity. I'll take some time and look in on the CF series 3 info.


I purchased the items at 224$ for 2x 830's 128gb sata III ( comp store sent the wrong one) and returned via shipping. That's where I am at right now.

If I decide to do so that means that I will be replacing for 2x Corsair Force Series GS CSSD-F128GBGS-BK 2.5" 128GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive @ 139.99 each w/o shipping (+14.99 for a 1 year warranty ) so $279.98 vs $224 on a workstation build.

The build has run me in total so far at roughly $ 2,200 between a second monitor, case + parts + warranties.

Do I think the cost of the drives for the performance justifies the addl price?

Well it can, look at the 840's they are priced at premium and don't offer the same benchmarks. So I understand where you are coming from here.

I'll have to think about it.

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I use a 3770K, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM and an AMD FirePro V7900 (AMD recently replaced this with the FirePro W7000) on an ASRock Z77 Extreme4 mobo. That combination is great for what I do using Maya, Mudbox, Photoshop and After Effects. I'm not entirely sure about ZBrush, but I know that Mudbox is not a strain on the CPU and my V7900 shows high-res models perfectly well in both Maya and Mudbox. As far as I know ZBrush uses both the GPU and CPU to do its job, but the 3770K is probably the best for price/performance ratio.
You won't need an immense CPU unless you plan on doing lots of rendering in your 3D application, the GPU is more important (Maya, Mudbox, Photoshop and After Effects among many others use the GPU to accelerate certain processes).
16GB of RAM minimum is a necessity, composting software like After Effects and Photshop can be very RAM hungry.
Hope I've contributed something worthwhile smile.gif

Hell yeah you did:thumb: mud always was a GPU hungry, zbrush not so much as its caching also stores in ram. Noticable viewport slowdowns in mud vs zbrush ( 1gb graphics card) . But I think I use mud most like the rest of those guys out there in the thick use it- zbrush if you need a lot of detail or for the plugins, and mud for that beauty texture pass, and also that viewport feedback really helps. Would like a firepro or a quadro but just dont have the money atm.

I'm trying to put together a showreel for a steady gig for 2013. so probably using vray and 3dsmax > and posts in nuke. I have some models from Zbrush for a character demo but I don't think my work is strong enough yet compared to other. I can mostly do "good eye" work, but I am still a generalist, have not chosen a field of specialty yet.
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Hell yeah you did:thumb: mud always was a GPU hungry, zbrush not so much as its caching also stores in ram. Noticable viewport slowdowns in mud vs zbrush ( 1gb graphics card) . But I think I use mud most like the rest of those guys out there in the thick use it- zbrush if you need a lot of detail or for the plugins, and mud for that beauty texture pass, and also that viewport feedback really helps. Would like a firepro or a quadro but just dont have the money atm.
I'm trying to put together a showreel for a steady gig for 2013. so probably using vray and 3dsmax > and posts in nuke. I have some models from Zbrush for a character demo but I don't think my work is strong enough yet compared to other. I can mostly do "good eye" work, but I am still a generalist, have not chosen a field of specialty yet.

You can get the FirePro V5900 for about £300, or a V7900 for about £400 if you look in the right places, I got mine for about £475 some 6months ago, which is still well below the RRP of ~£700-800. That's obviously because the newer W7000/8000/9000 cards have come out, but unless you're doing some seriously heavy stuff, even this V7900 is a bit overkill. Some models I have in Mudbox are over 15million polys and it still working perfectly smooth. Quadro cards are normally more expensive than FirePro's, but they aren't always better.

I've always wanted to try ZBrush, creating a model using ZSpheres looks really awesome, but I'm sticking with Mudbox for now until my portfolio is more complete. Would be interesting to see a link to your current portfolio smile.gif
    
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As I've said before the 830s all the way! biggrin.gif
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My stuff is wack lol but sure go to town man

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yeah the asus gti card arrived and its opened so now I don't feel so great :-/ but hey maybe next run when I get my big boy muscles I'll get a firepro, I was looking at them for this rig. They seemed to be pretty good. I don't know much about displayport or eyefinity though frown.gif
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