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post #231 of 319
I've heard that 3770ks are higher binned. I've been toying with the idea of getting one in hopes that it will clock higher.
Anyway, mine isn't terribly above average. 4.7GHz is usually reachable if you have proper cooling. Water cooling works wonders. Unfortunately, to get "proper cooling" a delid is necessary. (Boo hiss Intel)
post #232 of 319
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I've heard that 3770ks are higher binned. I've been toying with the idea of getting one in hopes that it will clock higher.
Anyway, mine isn't terribly above average. 4.7GHz is usually reachable if you have proper cooling. Water cooling works wonders. Unfortunately, to get "proper cooling" a delid is necessary. (Boo hiss Intel)

my temps never goes above 70 degrees at 4.9ghz but I can't get 5ghz stable no matter how much voltage I try. I can boot into 5.2ghz but it's not even benchable
post #233 of 319
With high end CPUs, you get what you pay for. Unless you're paying for extreme editions. Then you're just an idiot or have too much money that you should give to me instead.
post #234 of 319
FX 8350 isnt bottleneck, software is !!. I dont see CPU usage at 99%, so we can call it a bottleneck. Its just games r not coded well for multithreading. CPU bottleneck is when CPU is 99% utilised, and GPU isnt. But even in that kind of situation other factors can interrupt, and cause GPU not to perform on its best. We see FX 8350 utilised at about 60%, so how can it be bottleneck ??
post #235 of 319
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my temps never goes above 70 degrees at 4.9ghz but I can't get 5ghz stable no matter how much voltage I try. I can boot into 5.2ghz but it's not even benchable

Are you delidded?
post #236 of 319
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FX 8350 isnt bottleneck, software is !!. I dont see CPU usage at 99%, so we can call it a bottleneck. Its just games r not coded well for multithreading. CPU bottleneck is when CPU is 99% utilised, and GPU isnt. But even in that kind of situation other factors can interrupt, and cause GPU not to perform on its best. We see FX 8350 utilised at about 60%, so how can it be bottleneck ??

Well, current game coding is what makes it a bottleneck. There's no way around that. Not until game designers go back out and re-code all these games, which just isn't going to happen. Future games will slowly improve and introduce more threads. But in this day and age, you want fewer and beefier cores. 4-6 is the sweet spot.
post #237 of 319
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Are you delidded?

yup. was pissed with my 3570k before. temps were so high but when I though the closest heatsink on my nh-d14 at that time it wasn't even getting warm. got pissed, delidded the rascal. voila, I've been very happy since
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FX 8350 isnt bottleneck, software is !!. I dont see CPU usage at 99%, so we can call it a bottleneck. Its just games r not coded well for multithreading. CPU bottleneck is when CPU is 99% utilised, and GPU isnt. But even in that kind of situation other factors can interrupt, and cause GPU not to perform on its best. We see FX 8350 utilised at about 60%, so how can it be bottleneck ??

the reality is it's hard to program games. only a number of games barely support 4 threads let alone 8 threads that amd cpu's have. 99% of games today are still 2 threaded and I don't see it changing anytime soon tbh.
post #238 of 319
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yup. was pissed with my 3570k before. temps were so high but when I though the closest heatsink on my nh-d14 at that time it wasn't even getting warm. got pissed, delidded the rascal. voila, I've been very happy since

Yeah, I was hitting high 90s Celsius at 4.6GHz... When I delidded, I lost almost 30 Celsius. It was a great day.

Well, actually, when I first delidded, I was pissed because I didn't lost much temperature at all. I took it back out and thoroughly cleaned all the black glue off, then the temperature dropped. It wasn't the thermal paste Intel used, it was the gap between the die and the IHS caused by too much glue.
post #239 of 319
so it still wasn't fixed with windows 8? I was gonna upgrade my vishera rig to windows 8 just to see the difference. I guess Ima stick with windows 7 for now.
post #240 of 319
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so it still wasn't fixed with windows 8? I was gonna upgrade my vishera rig to windows 8 just to see the difference. I guess Ima stick with windows 7 for now.

See for yourself

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-8-bulldozer-performance,3289.html
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