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I'm telling you, gaming under $1000 isn't a good idea at all on a laptop. I really think you'd be better off getting a desktop and a tablet. Let's say you get a budget gaming laptop for $700 or something. What's going to happen ten months from now when newer games come out with higher spec requirements? You'll be gaming on low again and this will all be for naught. The 7730G on that AMD board isn't that great and neither is a GT 640M. Even the desktop GT 640 is not that great of a card and desktop GPU's are always faster than their mobile counterparts.

The 640M barely gets above 30-35 FPS in Batman Arkham City when it's in DX11. That's barely playable performance. Don't get me wrong, it gets great framerates over HD4000 but it definitely won't run games on medium-high for more than a year. BF3 on high brings it to its knees.
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I'm telling you, gaming under $1000 isn't a good idea at all on a laptop. I really think you'd be better off getting a desktop and a tablet.
Tablets are dead useless when you want to do more then what web and apps can deliver and do not want to rely on labs to actually get work done on campus.
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I'm telling you, gaming under $1000 isn't a good idea at all on a laptop. I really think you'd be better off getting a desktop and a tablet. Let's say you get a budget gaming laptop for $700 or something. What's going to happen ten months from now when newer games come out with higher spec requirements? You'll be gaming on low again and this will all be for naught. The 7730G on that AMD board isn't that great and neither is a GT 640M. Even the desktop GT 640 is not that great of a card and desktop GPU's are always faster than their mobile counterparts.
The 640M barely gets above 30-35 FPS in Batman Arkham City when it's in DX11. That's barely playable performance. Don't get me wrong, it gets great framerates over HD4000 but it definitely won't run games on medium-high for more than a year. BF3 on high brings it to its knees.
Lol, tablet for schoolwork, you can't be serious?

He wants to do LIGHT gaming, not hardcore.
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I am going to college next year, and I need a new laptop before the fall semester starts

1-You're really jumping the gun.

2-If it wasn't for your complaint of 6.5lbs being too heavy, I would say grab a MSI GX60 [7.7lbs] later when they drop to $1k or a refurb. Great GPU [7970m] tied to anemic, but functional APU [10-4600m]

3-I would wait until June/July to start looking. I'd look for a Sager with a GT 750m.
Edited by thegreatsquare - 12/2/12 at 3:50am
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Unless he means for the Spring semester late start?
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1-You're really jumping the gun.
2-If it wasn't for your complaint of 6.5lbs being too heavy, I would say grab a MSI GX60 [7.7lbs] later when they drop to $1k or a refurb. Great GPU [7970m] tied to anemic, but functional APU [10-4600m]
3-I would wait until June/July to start looking. I'd look for a Sager with a GT 750m.

I was hoping that by the time late spring/summer hits, the older models' prices would've gone down and I would have something to compare to when looking at future models. Also, I am suspicious of SLI/CF of mobile GPUs because of the micro-stuttering issue.
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I was hoping that by the time late spring/summer hits, the older models' prices would've gone down and I would have something to compare to when looking at future models. Also, I am suspicious of SLI/CF of mobile GPUs because of the micro-stuttering issue.

I don't think the graphics on the APU X-fires with the 7970m. They do that with lesser GPUs like the 7670m, but I'm almost certain the GPU on the GX60 works alone. The APU is only used for Enduro's power saving. The APU bottlenecks the 7970m, but it still ends up faster than anything Intel/660m-675mx and at a better price.

http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gx60-1ac021us-p-5009.html

By April/May the new GPUs will be known for the most part ...if not out. Asking again then would bring a better answer as far as what to get or at least what to wait for.
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I'm telling you, gaming under $1000 isn't a good idea at all on a laptop. I really think you'd be better off getting a desktop and a tablet. Let's say you get a budget gaming laptop for $700 or something. What's going to happen ten months from now when newer games come out with higher spec requirements? You'll be gaming on low again and this will all be for naught. The 7730G on that AMD board isn't that great and neither is a GT 640M. Even the desktop GT 640 is not that great of a card and desktop GPU's are always faster than their mobile counterparts.
The 640M barely gets above 30-35 FPS in Batman Arkham City when it's in DX11. That's barely playable performance. Don't get me wrong, it gets great framerates over HD4000 but it definitely won't run games on medium-high for more than a year. BF3 on high brings it to its knees.
Post is full of narrow-minded rules and assumptions from a hardcore gamer.
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Post is full of narrow-minded rules and assumptions from a hardcore gamer.
^Agreed.

@TrollingThunder
My $900 laptop plays most games at high settings and runs higher than 60FPS, no stuttering. This includes Skyrim and BF3. I am pretty sure there are plenty of laptops out there under $1000, and have more than just a HD4000. Mine, for example, has an i7-3612QM (Ivy Bridge), 6GB RAM, and Radeon HD 7550M. When I compare my laptop with my friends $1300 Alienware laptop, I get the same performance. Do I prefer playing games over my desktop over my laptop? Yes, and that is why I am in the midst of an upgrade. thumb.gif
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Lenovo Ideapad Y580, if you catch one of their discount sales you can get a i7-3630qm, GTX 660m, 1080, 8GB, 1Tb hdd, 16GB msata (user upgradeable I believe), for about $1000.

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Post is full of narrow-minded rules and assumptions from a hardcore gamer.
^Agreed.

@TrollingThunder
My $900 laptop plays most games at high settings and runs higher than 60FPS, no stuttering. This includes Skyrim and BF3. I am pretty sure there are plenty of laptops out there under $1000, and have more than just a HD4000. Mine, for example, has an i7-3612QM (Ivy Bridge), 6GB RAM, and Radeon HD 7550M. When I compare my laptop with my friends $1300 Alienware laptop, I get the same performance. Do I prefer playing games over my desktop over my laptop? Yes, and that is why I am in the midst of an upgrade. thumb.gif

But one key detail you're leaving out; resolution?
Alienware isn't really a good comparison, we all know they're generally overpriced for the hardware.
 
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