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Whatever lol.

I call BS, the 4770K does not have an "OEM" cooler derp.

Who cares about clocks when Haswell is 10%- 15% out of the box using less electricity.

lol you sound desperate. I know, I had an AMD once.

actually the I7 4770k only averages around 5%-8% on average and well in general Ivy and sandy were also just a few percentage often 3%-8% apart and in alot of cases traded blows on who won so you saying haswell is a 10%-15% increase is the BS i only added the original post so people upgrading can understand the facts and make a wise decision i also want to point out IVY can overclock high enough in general to offset the performance increase of haswell and often can also do so after haswell is overclocked because because IVY and Sandy in general have so much more overclocking potential / overhead.

I want to point out i had a complete running retail haswell I7 4770k rig 3 almost 4 weeks before release i am a tester for many companies and get first hand stuff way earlier than most.
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Great, maybe you can get a copy of Windows 8 rolleyes.gif
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Great, maybe you can get a copy of Windows 8 rolleyes.gif

i happpen to have 3 copies of windows 8 and 4 copies of windows 7 i got them free by the way.

i prefer windows 7 because i can still use my addons and gadgets and such and better program compatability period

also i cant stand windows 8 because i feel like it was designed for a laptop or mobile device
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OK, so you don't get sarcasm.

Haswell is 10% faster clock for clock.
Haswell uses less power for that clock.

Heat measured at the heatsink interface is not indicative on the performance of said chip. It simply means more heat builds up at that point.
Frequency can only be compared on the same CPU, or to ones own CPU as a relative point. To say that Haswell does not clock well based on some number you pulled out of the air is meaningless.

You fail to see or appreciate what an upgrade Haswell is, even if it isn't earth shattering.
If you actually knew anything about computers you would know that computers are already running close to the speed of light. That is why we shrink electronics.
The discipline we use, dictates that we can consider electronics to operate instantaneously as long as they are slower then the speed of light. If we go faster, alternating signals become out of phase before they reach their destination.

Since we can't go faster, we can only go smaller. This is why you will no longer see improvements in clock numbers. Everything else has doubled or tripped every few years except for clock speeds. So all you Vin Diesel overclockers better get used to the numbers you get now. Any increase or decrease in clocks at this point will not dictate the performance of a CPU.

Barring an revolutionary developments or extreme die shrinks, clock speed will be in the same ball park for years to come.

It doesn't impress me, or any other practical thinker how much heat and electricity you can waste with your CPU.
The cost of running a "K" chip is much much more then the $30 upgrade at the store.

So now that you have learned something perhaps you won't sound that way.
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