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Poll Results: Best BIOS: Easy to use, stable, fast, reliable, etc

 
  • 57% (16)
    ASUS
  • 14% (4)
    MSI
  • 17% (5)
    Gigabyte
  • 7% (2)
    Biostar
  • 3% (1)
    ASRock
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post #31 of 39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeXel View Post

G45 and lower use 4 phase analog PWMs with crappy D-PAK mosfets. Considering the price into that equation, there are just terrible buys.

ASRock uses 4 phase doubled analog PWMs with crappy D-PAK mosfets on Extreme4. Again considering alternatives, it makes it a bad buy for OC.

Asus is much better, but they use 4 phase digital PWMs that are sometimes doubled when similar priced Gigabyte, MSI, and Biostar boards use 6 phases. So why settle for worse? Additionally Asus cripples OC features for cheaper boards.



They all, besides MSI lower end boards, still will OC good, and I just don't recommended getting 4 phase ones since they are better alternatives.

They all should be fine though for your needs.

Is this motherboard good for what it does? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007QWI368/?tag=pcpapi-20

Or are the ASUS alternative H77s better?

Do heatsinks on mobos matter for H77 w/ i3 and no OC RAM?

    
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post #32 of 39
H77 = no overclock -> VRM doesn't matter. Heatsink is good to keep temps of socket area cool unless high quality mosfets ate used.

And only Gigabyte and Intel use quality (non d-pak) mosfets on H77 boards (from about 20 H77 boards I checked).

Just pick up best loaded H77 board for the money by comparing specs. I am not sure if Asus offers anything better than MSI and etc.
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post #33 of 39
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Originally Posted by DeXel View Post

H77 = no overclock -> VRM doesn't matter. Heatsink is good to keep temps of socket area cool unless high quality mosfets ate used.

And only Gigabyte and Intel use quality (non d-pak) mosfets on H77 boards (from about 20 H77 boards I checked).

Just pick up best loaded H77 board for the money by comparing specs. I am not sure if Asus offers anything better than MSI and etc.

What's the difference between MOSFET and VRM? Which one matters the most on OCing the RAM? I might OC RAM in the future, or just lower the timings.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519%2050001314%2040000280%20600315499&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=280%7C13%2D128%2D550%5E13%2D128%2D550%2DTS%2C13%2D128%2D548%5E13%2D128%2D548%2DTS

Can these mobos OC RAM? And does it matter that there are no heatsinks around the CPU?

    
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post #34 of 39
MOSFET is a part of VRM.

There are many factors of ocing a RAM. The most important is how good IMC is in your CPU. I am not even sure if you can OC RAM on H77... It doesn't even make sense to pay $100 for H77 motherboard when you can get Z77 one.

Those GB motherboards use high quality mosfets, so heatsink is not a problem for not overclocked system.
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post #35 of 39
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Originally Posted by DeXel View Post

By official specs Z77's only advantage over H77 is OC support, but it looks like manufacturers put all goodies to Z77 boards. I am not entirely sure if you can OC RAM on H77 boards, or with CPU with locked multiplier.

I can confirm its possible to overclock ram on non k series cpu


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post #36 of 39
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Originally Posted by DeXel View Post

MOSFET is a part of VRM.

There are many factors of ocing a RAM. The most important is how good IMC is in your CPU. I am not even sure if you can OC RAM on H77... It doesn't even make sense to pay $100 for H77 motherboard when you can get Z77 one.

Those GB motherboards use high quality mosfets, so heatsink is not a problem for not overclocked system.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128543 - How bout this one?

 

You can OC RAM on i3, right?

    
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post #37 of 39
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128543 - How bout this one?

You can OC RAM on i3, right?

tis what i was trying to get at with my above post. yes you can(im using i3-2120)
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post #38 of 39
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Originally Posted by Dudewitbow View Post

I can confirm its possible to overclock ram on non k series cpu
source: personal build with samsung ram on an open box asus board i got last week

Thanks for the info rep+.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128543 - How bout this one?

You can OC RAM on i3, right?

That's a good board. It goes for $99 without any rebates from time to time.
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post #39 of 39
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Ok thanks for everyone's help! I found my board!

    
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