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Originally Posted by un-midas touch View Post

Ok so back to the point at hand, how do taxpayers pay for illegal copies?
From what I see we're paying to stop getting something for free. headscratch.gif

Taxpayers, or more to the point, customers who actually BUY legal software will pay higher costs for the software as companies, who have to pay for research and development, advertising, general and administrative, and a whole host of other "fixed costs" have to be paid for. The more that a piece of software is pirated, the higher share each legal copy has to bear to pay for those fixed costs.

Some pieces of software have tens of millions of man-hour of programming in them, and in the case of say Windows 8, had a BILLION dollars worth of advertising associated with it. If they sell 10 million copies and there was 0 piracy, the cost could be lower because the fixed costs could be better spread out among all 10 million copies. But if it is massively pirated, say 8 million sold and 2 million pirated, the SAME total cost has to now be spread out across only 8 million copies.
post #102 of 110
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Guess what, don't break the law and you don't have to worry about it. Break the law and you get what you deserve.
I dont break laws so im not in jail for doing anything bad.
Oh and by the way, THEY ALL PLEAD GUILTY. People don't plead guilty unless they did something wrong.

You have no idea how the justice system works. Apparently you've never heard of plea bargaining. Before you open your mouth educate yourself. How about this, I'm gonna go rape your mother and serve less time than these 'criminals', get real man.
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well since you've never broken the law I Guess you've never heard of a plea bargain agreement? if you can't afford a lawyer they appoint you a public pretender, most of the time without a proper lawyer the case is already lost so best case scenario is to cop a guilty plea for a reduced sentence, even if your innocent. regardless of the circumstances, a public defender will suggest that you plea guilty 90% of the time. we live in a country where the broke people are guilty, and those with money are always innocent

Yeap, and why will they ask you to plea guilty? Well good sir, it moves the docket, and when you move the docket the judge and prosecutors like you more, which might give you a chance one day to be a prosecutor yourself. Yay American justice system!
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Taxpayers, or more to the point, customers who actually BUY legal software will pay higher costs for the software as companies, who have to pay for research and development, advertising, general and administrative, and a whole host of other "fixed costs" have to be paid for. The more that a piece of software is pirated, the higher share each legal copy has to bear to pay for those fixed costs.
Some pieces of software have tens of millions of man-hour of programming in them, and in the case of say Windows 8, had a BILLION dollars worth of advertising associated with it. If they sell 10 million copies and there was 0 piracy, the cost could be lower because the fixed costs could be better spread out among all 10 million copies. But if it is massively pirated, say 8 million sold and 2 million pirated, the SAME total cost has to now be spread out across only 8 million copies.

All I'm hearing is "karma penalizes those supporting the exploitation of the copyright system." And now back to being an anarchist revolutionary.
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post #105 of 110
so he'll do 20 months, at least he didn't snitch lol
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Only $15,000, It want too long ago I remember reading about a kid who was find over $100,000 I believe, and offered his life savings.

Not that I think any of this is right but how exactly are these punishments so different? How do they decide, does the judge just pull a number out of his rear end?
post #107 of 110
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Only $15,000, It want too long ago I remember reading about a kid who was find over $100,000 I believe, and offered his life savings.
Not that I think any of this is right but how exactly are these punishments so different? How do they decide, does the judge just pull a number out of his rear end?

Yyyup
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Some pieces of software have tens of millions of man-hour of programming in them, and in the case of say Windows 8, had a BILLION dollars worth of advertising associated with it. If they sell 10 million copies and there was 0 piracy, the cost could be lower because the fixed costs could be better spread out among all 10 million copies. But if it is massively pirated, say 8 million sold and 2 million pirated, the SAME total cost has to now be spread out across only 8 million copies.

The problem with this statement is that you are assuming that the 2 million pirates would have actually purchased Windows 8 had they not been able to pirate it.
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post #109 of 110
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Many laws are themselves unjust. Anyone punished for breaking them is a victim of a far greater crime, and anyone enforcing them, a villain.

Way to take that out of context, ignoring the rest of it. If you are gong to quote me, actually quote me, don't cut it short so you can bolster your soap box.
    
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Nice logic. Really. You should go and teach a class on it - if you do choose to, you should look up something called circular reasoning
While I don't do so myself, I personally see nothing morally wrong with stealing from large corporations.

There is no such thing as stealing from a corporation. LMAO

It's simply called business.
Edited by Addict1973 - 12/4/12 at 9:31pm
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