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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($314.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme9 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($309.47 @ Newegg)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($254.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2073.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-02 16:21 EST-0500)
I chose a new motherboard. I'll probably get one of the ASSRock Z77 series motherboards, but I'm trying to determine the difference between each one. Right now I have the bestest/most expensive one selected.
Haven't had time to look at monitors.
My question about towers still stands. Do you think a mid is large enough for what I have selected?
The case should be able to handle any ATX motherboard without a hitch. Let me ask you this: Are you absolutely sure you will use every option that the board has? If not go with a board that has options that you know you will use within 3 years. In three years, the processor and most other components in your system will be outdated and due for an upgrade. Just because the motherboard is more expensive doesn't mean a thing, all you are paying extra for are the extra options you may not need or ever use. Try to jump down to the motherboard I listed above; I believe it will suit your needs just fine and overclocks just a well as any other Z77 board on the market.

Did you try to look into another SSD? Try to keep in mind, just because the IOPS is higher on one SSD than the other doesnt mean anything. There is no real world performance difference. When you played your games on an HDD, did you feel anything like a slow down caused by the HDD? I am willing to bet you didn't. The performance differences that you see between HDDs and SSDs are the write and read speeds:
IOPS x TransferSizeInBytes = BytesPerSec
Therefore, IOPS do little in determining SSD speed that is noticeable outside of benchmarks. Here is another post on SSDs to back my claims: http://www.overclock.net/t/1327486/iops/0_20
Let me add by saying, I am no professional when it comes to SSDs, I just became interested in them and decided to read Sean's guide and do my own research into SSDs. He gave me a tip when shopping for an SSD as well (Link to my Thread). The cost of the SSD doesn't mean anything. You can find other SSDs that will perform just as well and even better for cheaper.

The monitors you picked out look like good choices, but you may be able to find some great monitors for a little less.

Overall, your PC you have pieced together is very nice, and I hope we see a Build Log in the near future. thumb.gif

-JRuxGaming
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  • Crucial M4 (3yr warranty)
  • Corsair Neutron / Corsair Neutron Series GTX (5yr warranties)
  • Corsair Performance Pro (3yr warranty)
  • Intel 520 (5yr warranty) / 330 (3yr warranty)
  • OCZ Vertex 4 (5yr warranty)
  • Plextor M3 / M3 Pro / M5 Pro (5yr warranties) / M5S (3yr warranty)
  • Samsung 830 / 840 (3yr warranties) /840 Pro (5yr warranty)
  • High end SandForce, preferably one with toggle NAND

[*] High end - Anything with Synchronous or Toggle mode NAND. These are a lot faster with incompressible data. Plese look into one of these drives before you consider a asynchronous SandForce drive, it would be a waste of $ to buy a asynchronous drive when you can get something with Toggle or Synchronous NAND for a similar or lower price imo.
Toggle:
  • Corsair Force Series GS
  • Future Storage
  • Mushkin Chronos Deluxe
  • OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS
  • OWC Mercury Extreme Pro 6G
  • PNY XLR8
  • PNY Prevail Elite
  • Sandisk Extreme
  • Transcend SSD720
Synchronous:
  • ADATA XPG SX900
  • ADATA S511
  • Corsair Force Series GT
  • Intel SSD 330
  • Intel SSD 520
  • Kingston HyperX 3K
  • Kingston HyperX
  • MemoRight FTM Plus
  • Mushkin Chronos MX
  • OCZ Vertex 3
  • OWC Mercury Extreme Pro 6G
  • Patriot Pyro SE
  • Silicon Power V30
  • Super Talent TeraDrive PT3
  • Zalman F1

Sooooo, just be on the look out for one of these to drop in price and snag it up? I want about a 256GB drive. Around what price would be a good one to get one of these at?
post #43 of 48
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Sooooo, just be on the look out for one of these to drop in price and snag it up? I want about a 256GB drive. Around what price would be a good one to get one of these at?
It don't believe it has to be one of those in particular, check my thread each day. Sean will be linking a SSD that is a good deal and around 250-256GB. I am going to continue to watch what he links me to. I believe that will help me understand more of what I am looking for.
For Example, Sean listed this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?is=REG&Q=&A=details&O=productlist&sku=857319
Edited by JRuxGaming - 12/2/12 at 3:46pm
post #44 of 48
I would like to put in a vote for Window s8. The person who spoke against it HASN'T ACTUALLY USED IT based on the fact that he said "From what I've heard," which means that his "opinion" is hearsay at best and flame at worst. I am using W8 on both my laptop and desktop machines, neither of which have touch screens, and I am quite happy with the experience. The UI looks good, it boots, shuts down and sleeps VERY quickly, and has a lot of cool tricks that can enhance productivity. If you use it for a week, you will find yourself getting things done faster than you could in Windows 7. Also IE10 is a great browser and I don't plan on even installing firefox or chrome. Additionally, windows defender has upgraded and integrated with Microsoft security essentials (a solid, free, Microsoft maintained AV for W7) and has had several low level security enhancements, making it much more secure, even without a stand-alone resource hogging antivirus, than W7 was.
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I would like to put in a vote for Window s8. The person who spoke against it HASN'T ACTUALLY USED IT based on the fact that he said "From what I've heard," which means that his "opinion" is hearsay at best and flame at worst. I am using W8 on both my laptop and desktop machines, neither of which have touch screens, and I am quite happy with the experience. The UI looks good, it boots, shuts down and sleeps VERY quickly, and has a lot of cool tricks that can enhance productivity. If you use it for a week, you will find yourself getting things done faster than you could in Windows 7. Also IE10 is a great browser and I don't plan on even installing firefox or chrome. Additionally, windows defender has upgraded and integrated with Microsoft security essentials (a solid, free, Microsoft maintained AV for W7) and has had several low level security enhancements, making it much more secure, even without a stand-alone resource hogging antivirus, than W7 was.

Yeah, I heard that there were some new security features implemented at a low level and apparently there were some interviews with black hats and they said that Windows 8 would be a lot tougher to crack than Windows 7.

I really will need to try a demo at a store to see how I like the UI. I'm kinda wary about the lack of a start menu, as losing that feels akin to losing an arm.

The biggest concern I have is Win 8 becoming a closed console. Though to be honest I don't know much about this or the security features either.

I think that for now my ability to get a copy of Win 7 Ultimate for $55.00 is pushing me in the direction of Win 7. I'll have to try out Win 8 at a store and see if it totally blows me away or not.
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That's a good plan, though I can tell you W8 will feel uncomfortable while you're at the store. It does take a little getting used to, so you'll probably decide to go W7. Also, there is no chance of MS disallowing non-marketplace applications. That would ruin them in a heartbeat, and the way W8 is set up, there are applications that run in the "Modern" side that you download from the marketplace store thing, and on the other side, you can install regular x86 apps at your leisure. That functionality isn't going anywhere.
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ok most of the time i read this whole post before i reply but am bored and some guys write a news paper,

here is my advice go with ready water loop if u will overclock like h100 / h100i, if u r not going to overclock i suggest then changing the cpu totaly and get to i5 2500 not unlocked and u will be able to play all games, but u said expeirments i dont know what of them and how use of cpu but i know thats heavy stuff thats why u chosed i7, then lets stick with i7 i suggest 2600 if u not going to do overclocking otherwise get 3770k ( overclocking is easy and if u got awesome motehrboard there is a ready sets u just click one button like asus motherboards and it does the overclock)

for gigabyte Snper yes the Lan card does really effect ur latency between 20ms to 50ms, i have that with my friends pc also the sniper motherboard comes with amazing onboard soundcard witch i love, however i have maximus V formulla for the onboard card also good supreme FX iv same time i get Fan xpert 2 i can control my fans easily then lastly i overclock my cpu easily by the Aisuit II even tho i did it from bios to reach 4.8 Ghz but the software is very good for new guys to start with and feel the difference till the time they learned ocing

lastly

if u will run 3 monitors to game then u will need 680 or 690 otherwise stick with 670 it max everygame at 1080p,
my advice asus Gtx 670 DCU II top edition

for Ram stick with 8gb dont go 4 gb , u said will run game same time the work or exp u will do ,

4gb will be maxed if u do that and open 1 browser so for safe side stick with 8gb minimum, 1600mhz will best perfomance for windows etc. but if u will do rendering and video encoding etc.. or will use ram cache or ramdisk then u better even reach 2600 mhz if u can afford it simple as that
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I would like to put in a vote for Window s8. The person who spoke against it HASN'T ACTUALLY USED IT based on the fact that he said "From what I've heard," which means that his "opinion" is hearsay at best and flame at worst.

My comment from the perspective of "from what I heard" was based on general opinion from the public and I should have stated that as such in my post to avoid confusion. I wasn't trying to flame Win8, I was just trying to help him decide what OS to get since that is the type of help he was asking for. You can feel free to look at my other comments on OCN and see that I'm not spending my time bashing crap just to start a flame war. I'm not 13 so I have better things to do than to try to turn every thread on the internet into a YouTube video comment board. I try to help people on here troubleshoot PC problems, check out custom builds and keep up on industry news. Since I'm primarily a desktop/ notebook user I find, with the limited exposure I've had to Win8, that the OS is not for me. I don't find having to imitate swipe gestures with a mouse, hunt for hotspot GUI buttons to navigate around or try to remember hotkey combos of basic operations enjoyable. The fact that Metro and the base OS code are not seamlessly integrated as one is kinda bad too IMO. Older apps will be run on the desktop and the newer stuff will be run in Metro. To me it should have been coded as one interface instead of two things but this might have been by design so you will want to get all of your apps through the MS app store. If the Win8 style of GUI is going to be the norm from now on for MS then I will have to explore other OS options in the future after Win7 becomes too outdated.
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