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post #11 of 28
WEI = Tom's Hardware. lol

if your board is guaranteed to accept the visheras (update bios prior to taking out old cpu), then go vis. if not . . . you decide . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1333027/amd-fx-8350-vs-i5-3570k-single-gpu-and-crossfire-gpu

i recommend the 8320.thumb.gif
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Since someone asked, here's my build:
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But here's the question: Does Vishera offer better per-core execution (as it has the Turbo Boost) so is there any difference when gaming? That's pretty much all I use my computer for these days.

Also, having a single thread go through a single bulldozer module? Has it been done before?
post #13 of 28
your motherboard should be replaced. MSI + (4+1 powerphase) = badnews.
asus and gigabyte make boards with good power phases and cooling around 100$.

if you're just doing gaming yes piledriver cores are better, check the bottom few scores.
in single threaded and most gaming situations that aren't threaded intel is still on top. afaik there is no 'single thread through piledriver module' aka multithreading a single process.

if you are looking for a purely gaming build a 2500k and and a p67 mobo will give you noticeably better performance for about the same price as a decent am3+ mobo and an 8320.
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i believe in the situation you are kinda right..only if the op has a good motherboard and all he has to do is buy the cpu...yes price vs performance vs buying an intel cpu and motherboard i will cost more..and wei does tell the truth to a certain point..there is alot of hardware that will get 7.9 and big performance differences between them.the amd cpu is 200+dollars the i7 3770k is 229.99..so yes it may be more then a few dollars..about 20-30 dollars more..but the performance difference is worth every penny..you get 8 horrible cores vs 4 ultimate cores
i think you mean the 3570k, not the 3770k at that price.
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post #15 of 28
..go to microcenter.com the i7 is 229.99 and the i5 is 169.99
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..go to microcenter.com the i7 is 229.99 and the i5 is 169.99

yeah, i'm just saying in general though, not everyone lives near one. but if OP does then he should go ahead and get it.
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Since someone asked, here's my build:
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But here's the question: Does Vishera offer better per-core execution (as it has the Turbo Boost) so is there any difference when gaming? That's pretty much all I use my computer for these days.
Also, having a single thread go through a single bulldozer module? Has it been done before?

Vishera is still slower clock vs clock compared to Phenom II. Not by a lot, just slightly. Vishera can clock way higher though so it's not really significant. Like it was said above an i5-2500K + P67 motherboard is probably the best route, it'll cost the same as a 8320 + decent AM3+ motherboard.
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post #18 of 28
I wouldn't put anything stronger than a Phenom II x4 on any MSI AM3 boards, they are known for bad VRMs.
Any current AMD CPU will not be an upgrade from your Phenom, only a side-grade so to speak. If you want a real upgrade, go for 1155.
No fanboyism or hate here, I own and use a Phenom II x4 on a daily basis, so I know what I'm talking about. And don't trust WEI, it's a load of turd, you have to judge by your own usage pattern, be it games, movies, whatever.
My Phenom II x4 955 @ 3,8 handles the Asus DirectCU II HD 7970 3GB that I'm using now just fine, perhaps an i5 or i7 would give me a few more FPS here and there, but I'm certainly good for another GPU generation. This is quite a bit stronger than your GPU and I don't see a problem, so why would you. Maybe just "I need something new" itch?
Just make a reasonable overclock of the CPU-NB and it will breathe a new life into the system, if you have a decent RAM.
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post #19 of 28
yes i would def keep the 965 and oc the heck out of it..its sufficient for one good gpu..then just save up for a intel and z77 board...trust me you will be glad you did..well i was anyways and im hard to impress.
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Well the thing is, I make my rent in one week's pay check, so in two weeks (after rent was taken out), I can pretty much do whatever. So what I had my eye on was the ASUS solutions (because I work for them), a couple Z77 boards and just toss an Ivy Bridge i5 3570 in them.

To those of you that suggested using Intel: Besides simply making your processors faster because you could, have you felt the need to overclock the Intel chips for better performance in game? I realize that Intel doesn't clock as high when you OC, but their IPC is much higher than anything AMD has on the board right now. So if I go Intel, I'll just fork over the cash for the i5 3570k.

But if I'm switching mobos, I really have to know: 8x8 vs 16x16 SLI/CF... Is it worth it? I personally prefer single-card solutions as they tend to run into less games simply ignoring the existance of other hardware (i.e. a game does not take full advantage, and actually takes an fps HIT from SLI/CF) I also know of AMD's current driver dilemma with their cards, so would I want to eventually CF my 7870, or just dump it for the next pretty little thing to come along in two years?
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