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The Nexus 4 also suffers from screen sensitivity issues. More specifically, some devices require users to exert more pressure than normal on the screen to perform common tasks. I immediately noticed this when typing on my 8GB Nexus 4 for the first time. My review unit, which was a 16GB model, experienced no such issues.
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I immediately thought this was a hardware defect, so as any diligent tech geek would, I searched XDA Developers. Lo and behold, there are dozens of posts from users citing the same issue; the Nexus 4 screen has a sensitivity problem. But subjective observation is one thing; I wanted empirical evidence. I achieved this by going into Settings/Developer Options and turning on a setting called “Show Pointer Touches” and checking the value at the top of the screen associated with “Prs”. Normal Android devices such as my Galaxy S III register touches as light as 0.12. The minimum I can achieve on the Nexus 4 is 0.48. Sliding my finger across the screen allows it to drop as low as 0.26, but on the Galaxy S III I can register under 0.10.
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I’d hesitate to recommend the 8GB version. Saving $50 is not worth the hassle. With no expandable storage the 8GB Nexus 4 has only 5GB of usable space out of the box. I justified to myself the purchase by saying that I no longer store MP3s on my device, nor do I download massive games or watch offline movies. Nevertheless, I found that after a week or so I was left with under a gigabyte to work with, not from anything in particular but a steady buildup of cruft. Android devices get filled from various app caches, backed-up files, photos, videos and, yes, downloads. Unless you’re going to be vigilant about purging excess and unneeded files, 8GB will not be enough for you.
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Lastly, Android 4.2 has bugs. Google must have made more changes to the framework than we realized, because many apps that ran without issue on Android 4.1 either have performance issues or just won’t run at all. There are some delightful additions to the OS — lockscreen widgets; Photo Sphere; the gliding keyboard; quick settings — but all of them either feel incomplete or superfluous. They’re neat features, but don’t have the same impact as, say, Project Butter, which improved performance across the OS.

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to those that are going to jump on the bashing wagon before reading the article
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I do love the Nexus 4. I think it’s the best Android phone currently available, despite its flaws. But there are a few caveats one must take into account before purchasing the device. At $359, the 16GB version is great value and should not be overlooked. But just because it’s a Nexus doesn’t mean it’s the right phone for you.
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Not all phone is perfect, there will always be some flaws, hopefully it can be fix by software update, shouldn't be much of inconvenience, just need to get use to it
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I have no idea why Google went with LG when Samsung is leaps and bounds ahead. Honestly, LG can't even get the camera right. Have any of you used the Nexus 4's or the Optimus' cameras, holy crap 13mp of nonsense and utter failure. Go back to Sammy Google, charge a bit more, but put out a quality product.

Just my 2 cents.
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to those that are going to jump on the bashing wagon before reading the article
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I do love the Nexus 4. I think it’s the best Android phone currently available, despite its flaws. But there are a few caveats one must take into account before purchasing the device. At $359, the 16GB version is great value and should not be overlooked. But just because it’s a Nexus doesn’t mean it’s the right phone for you.

Read the article, still don't like LG phones.
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LG decided to go cheap on n4.
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I have no idea why Google went with LG when Samsung is leaps and bounds ahead. Honestly, LG can't even get the camera right. Have any of you used the Nexus 4's or the Optimus' cameras, holy crap 13mp of nonsense and utter failure. Go back to Sammy Google, charge a bit more, but put out a quality product.
Just my 2 cents.
Read the article, still don't like LG phones.

I believe that they are worried about reliance on one manufacturer.
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I personally don't see the hype over the current nexus. No expandable storage, I thought this was a staple of android phones.. at least when I bought my 2.1 device they all had expandable storage and the verizon people selling me the phone made it a pretty nice marketing ploy mentioning how you can safely remove the sd cards and swap another in for more pictures, music etc. 8gb non expandable is a joke IMO. Next complaint is LG, sorry but Samsung and HTC make better smartphones IMO, and there hasn't even been a motorola "nexus" yet, I think because it would interfere with how motorola has the whole "droid" naming set up for all its phones but still.


Next up, why does everyone think buying the nexus 4 and getting those t-mobile unlimited text/data plans with 100 minutes is the best thing since sliced bread? I understand you can use google voice, but what happens when you need to call someone and there isn't wifi. Which for me almost everywhere in town, only places that offer it are the barbershop, grocery store, other phone stores, and my school.


I have a feeling all the people that hated on the apple iphone 5 short comings when it was released, you know the SCUFFGATE and the phantom screen issues are gonna chime in saying now the android phones are just ad bas as the iphone. I think with any device stuff just happens..
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Originally Posted by Gnomepatrol View Post

I have no idea why Google went with LG when Samsung is leaps and bounds ahead. Honestly, LG can't even get the camera right. Have any of you used the Nexus 4's or the Optimus' cameras, holy crap 13mp of nonsense and utter failure. Go back to Sammy Google, charge a bit more, but put out a quality product.
Just my 2 cents.
Read the article, still don't like LG phones.

honestly it isn't entirely LG's fault as the sensor firstly is a sony sensor and secondly it could/most likely is the software processing of which you can blame google.

link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33484621&postcount=1

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I believe that they are worried about reliance on one manufacturer.
Google can't appear to be biased to a single manufacturer.....If they do it could potentially alienate the big Android OEM's away.

To be fair; the Nexus S wasn't meant to be....it was meant to be Sony but since they messed up Google had to go with Samsung instead. With Samsung producing 2 Nexii devices in a row Google needed to pick someone else.
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I personally don't see the hype over the current nexus. No expandable storage, I thought this was a staple of android phones.. at least when I bought my 2.1 device they all had expandable storage and the verizon people selling me the phone made it a pretty nice marketing ploy mentioning how you can safely remove the sd cards and swap another in for more pictures, music etc. 8gb non expandable is a joke IMO. Next complaint is LG, sorry but Samsung and HTC make better smartphones IMO, and there hasn't even been a motorola "nexus" yet, I think because it would interfere with how motorola has the whole "droid" naming set up for all its phones but still.
Next up, why does everyone think buying the nexus 4 and getting those t-mobile unlimited text/data plans with 100 minutes is the best thing since sliced bread? I understand you can use google voice, but what happens when you need to call someone and there isn't wifi. Which for me almost everywhere in town, only places that offer it are the barbershop, grocery store, other phone stores, and my school.
I have a feeling all the people that hated on the apple iphone 5 short comings when it was released, you know the SCUFFGATE and the phantom screen issues are gonna chime in saying now the android phones are just ad bas as the iphone. I think with any device stuff just happens..

Mainly because the Nexus 4 competes with the likes of the Galaxy SIII and iPhone 5, but for half the price.
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No expandable storage, I thought this was a staple of android phones.. at least when I bought my 2.1 device they all had expandable storage and the verizon people selling me the phone made it a pretty nice marketing ploy mentioning how you can safely remove the sd cards and swap another in for more pictures, music etc. 8gb non expandable is a joke IMO.

Expandable memory WAS a big point for Android. I've read that one of the reasons manufactures started going internal memory only was to protect the file system. Letting a computer have block-level access means it could potentially screw the file system up, but if the phone mounts its internal memory in user-space for the computer, it controls how stuff is written to it.

A second reason is internal memory can be formatted in a journalized file system, which means better performance, more secure and no more partitions for the OS, apps and data (no wasted space that way).

But I think 90% of the reason is a lot more money can be made by charging $50 per 8GB of storage (which is highway robbery; I just bought a 64GB microSDXC for $38). It is ridiculously cheap for manufacturers to put a microSD card reader in a phone and they're smaller than an ant.
 
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