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The end point is that the A10 significantly bottlenecks the 7970M. There's proof in the pudding with the benchmarks. You say they don't prove a thing, however when one setup gets one score, and the other setup with the same GPU gets a considerably lower score, that's a pretty good indicator of a bottleneck.

If you'd like to continue stomping your feet and kicking around like you're actually making a point against mine, please do it somewhere else where someone might care. rolleyes.gif

Seriously man, just stop. Really. Stop. We are here talking about a specific laptop people may be interested in. For you to step into this thread and spill garbage and misinformation about A PRODUCT YOU DO NOT OWN is not only bad form, but labels you as a troll.

Since I own this laptop, I can tell you that the biggest bottleneck on this laptop, by A LARGE margin, is the mechanical hard drive.

The great thing about this laptop, which the vast majority of laptops do not have, is removeable CPU and GPU along with the standard HDD/SSD and memory. This is a laptop with good bones, that a refresh in 5 years will still keep you in the game my brothers and sisters.

For now, I am holding out on upgrading the hard drive, because it is 750GB and I have easily filled it with Steam titles. Large SSD's are way too expensive right now. I think it may be best to wait for 2 years where they will probably be 10% of the cost, like put a TB SSD in there for like $150, I am hoping, in two years....

But for now, the laptop certainly crush a lot on all the games I have played thus far. It handles my Revit models like sugary coated candy, I mean, I can't complain for the price. Hands down the best price to performance, if gaming and 3D are your thing.
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Seriously man, just stop. Really. Stop. We are here talking about a specific laptop people may be interested in. For you to step into this thread and spill garbage and misinformation about A PRODUCT YOU DO NOT OWN is not only bad form, but labels you as a troll.

Since I own this laptop, I can tell you that the biggest bottleneck on this laptop, by A LARGE margin, is the mechanical hard drive.

The great thing about this laptop, which the vast majority of laptops do not have, is removeable CPU and GPU along with the standard HDD/SSD and memory. This is a laptop with good bones, that a refresh in 5 years will still keep you in the game my brothers and sisters.

For now, I am holding out on upgrading the hard drive, because it is 750GB and I have easily filled it with Steam titles. Large SSD's are way too expensive right now. I think it may be best to wait for 2 years where they will probably be 10% of the cost, like put a TB SSD in there for like $150, I am hoping, in two years....

But for now, the laptop certainly crush a lot on all the games I have played thus far. It handles my Revit models like sugary coated candy, I mean, I can't complain for the price. Hands down the best price to performance, if gaming and 3D are your thing.

I'd be labeled as a troll if I didn't know anything related to this laptop and just spouted random comments. But judging how I actually owned a 7970M at one point in the past, I can say that the GX60 is around the range of being medicore in terms of a gaming machine. It's great for if you're on a serious budget that can't be flexed, or just really unable to increase the budget at all. However, I don't think steering people towards that machine is the best option. Most people want a better processor so the GPU isn't held back for when they decide to upgrade later on down the road.

Also, no you can't upgrade the CPU in this laptop. The A10 is the highest you can go.
     
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You could upgrade it in the future if Trinty's successor Kaveri uses the same FM2 socket, and if the laptop's BIOS supports it.

However, there might be a chance that Kaveri's GPU won't be compatible with the 7970m.
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You could upgrade it in the future if Trinty's successor Kaveri uses the same FM2 socket, and if the laptop's BIOS supports it.

However, there might be a chance that Kaveri's GPU won't be compatible with the 7970m.

This is true... however it's highly unlikely that this'll be the case. The CPU sockets have all changed with each APU revamp. :S

EDIT:

And my apologies for beating the dead horse here, but really if you think I'm just spouting random stuff about this laptop, know that I'm getting all my information from a VERY reputable site.

If you'd like to see the review, along with other laptops as comparison, go here:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-GX60-Notebook.86283.0.html
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This is true... however it's highly unlikely that this'll be the case. The CPU sockets have all changed with each APU revamp. :S
They had to change the socket because FM1 did not support PCI-E 3.0.


After looking around:

http://wccftech.com/amd-richland-apu-lineup-leaked/

Richland, which has an updated GPU core, will be using FM2 socket.

Kaveri might also use the same FM2 socket.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Shows-and-Expos/AMD-CES-2013-Temash-Kabini-and-Kaveri-side-Sea-Islands
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FM2 and FM2+ will be the primary platform for AMD for quite some time. It was essentially confirmed that Trinity has the ability to run PCI-E 3.0 speeds, but the parts were never certified due to a mix of time, budget, and personnel constraints. FM1 did not support PCI-E 3.0 while FM2 does, hence the change in sockets. No timeline has been given for when PCI-E 3.0 will be implemented on the AMD platform, but we were assured that when it makes sense for them to do so we will see products supporting this technology.
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