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You should be more specific as to what applications you will be using.
I would be hesitant to run most closed loop WC kits on a workstation. Lots of downsides; most prominently pump failure (which would cause the CPU to reach thermal limits in seconds), or leaks. Neither are very common in quality units, but a large heatsink with multiple fans cannot fail as dramatically (unless the mounting hardware somehow fails).
Also, why exactly are you running a RAID 0 of SSDs? Do you really need that speed? If you need high speed swap area (not a system page file), more memory and a ramdrive may be a better idea. If you need more capacity, but not speed, conventional HDDs might be more suitable.

Totally granted, however have not had much experience setting up ramdisk myself. That was just something I had been wanting for sometime. the 830s price was negligable at the time.

I have been trying to take a great many opinions and condense based on my compute needs. I have sufficient HDD space from my last rig so I can easily integrate into this one.

I would have to ditch the case or the idea of getting a new gpu in order to keep cost effective, and i can also buy ram which I havent worked with yet ( samsung wonder ram). I have seen those kits output different speeds however overclockable they may be. Again was for the price.

Id be doing work in predominantly the following
3dsmax - Vray/MentalRay
Nuke, Premiere unlikely but not certain.
Photoshop definately.

So its a workstation that can act as a render node when necessary.

I had a few other things I would like to consider but are secondary atm

Would like to get a second monitor, or a GPU for that monitor. Again that would mean I should stick to my old rigs case. Unless any Front panel connections have changed recently I dont think its a big problem. I probably wont have usb 3.0 in the front but thats not a major concern
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Get 32 or 64GB RAM. You will, at some point, hit a file where you wish you had it.

 

I second the RAMdrive suggestion. I use mine all the time as a 32GB partition in my 64GB of memory...and then I turn it off if I've got a job that needs >32GB to render.

 

A single SSD's speed is plenty for 95% of everything you'll do, and then RAMdrive for the 5%. I mean just think about the numbers, an SSD can feed your proc close to 1GB every 2 seconds...how often do you ever have a file or project size much bigger than 1GB?

 

SLI video cards serve almost no purpose in CGI right now other than Cuda/OpenCL rendering, which isn't terribly usable in production settings yet. So take whatever money you were going to use on the second card, and spend it on RAM if push comes to shove. I have one beast video card with max VRAM, and that's it.

 

64GB is bliss in this day and age. I'm sure in 2 years it'll be merely standard, but that's fine too...more future proof.


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Get 32 or 64GB RAM. You will, at some point, hit a file where you wish you had it.

I second the RAMdrive suggestion. I use mine all the time as a 32GB partition in my 64GB of memory...and then I turn it off if I've got a job that needs >32GB to render.

A single SSD's speed is plenty for 95% of everything you'll do, and then RAMdrive for the 5%. I mean just think about the numbers, an SSD can feed your proc close to 1GB every 2 seconds...how often do you ever have a file or project size much bigger than 1GB?

SLI video cards serve almost no purpose in CGI right now other than Cuda/OpenCL rendering, which isn't terribly usable in production settings yet. So take whatever money you were going to use on the second card, and spend it on RAM if push comes to shove. I have one beast video card with max VRAM, and that's it.

64GB is bliss in this day and age. I'm sure in 2 years it'll be merely standard, but that's fine too...more future proof.

Hey Kweechy, So yeah I am looking for some good ram I can put to that p9x board, yeah the raid x0 ssds are overkill but at the price I honestly could not resist!

Yeah there are a few scenes in which ram use went up to 9 -11GB which can be daunting on the old rig, but it has taught me to become conservative with my settings. Although it is a pain to set up a large scene w camera move and geo heavy ( such as a lot of trees or shrubbery)

The card was merely to add on to an aging 465 or to help towards a dual monitor setup, as I dont have the cash to buy a card that would take on two monitors on its own well. I feel like if I don't get a card I will be wasting the 3930k in some respect. yeah I do recognize the merits of owning one card vs an sli setup, as I have had that kind of setup for a while now (1 card only). Any other custom "workstations" I have seen are usually just with one card dedicated per monitor or just a good card, like say a quadro 4000.

I do have a 240mm black ice rad that has been out of active use for some time now, but on inspection there is clearly signs of rust in the corners now frown.gif should have taken better care of it when it got boxed away. I would have thought Id be making enough funds to have a dual octo by now. But it just isn't happening.
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looking at 32 gb kits at the moment, looks like the p9x board is not so great in that regard, the selection is pretty scanty ( understandable since most people get 1600 ram anyway) but i would have thought there would be a wider HQL for those types of kits.
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looking at 32 gb kits at the moment, looks like the p9x board is not so great in that regard, the selection is pretty scanty ( understandable since most people get 1600 ram anyway) but i would have thought there would be a wider HQL for those types of kits.

I don't think there's anything terribly wrong with 1600 RAM really, for CGI stuff, I'd prioritize amount over speed.

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I have 12 gb of gskill 9 and they have served me well. Have not tried overclocking them however. on looking more into ivy the bandwidth is more important then the timings.

I was also looking at the "samsung wonder ram" for a while but didnt know if they stopped making or selling it. There is still a link on newegg to a ram with VERY hi review rates.

If I knew more about my particular chips I would just keep my twelve and oc or double up and get 24, that seems to be what was old standard on workstations. now its 32-64. Any bump I can get out of the ram is a good bump.
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