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The UI is all fine and good but what about the underlying system? Android can skin and tweak to look just like this but how does the OS function behind the UI? I keep seeing people talk about Meego and sure, it worked well enough (I used it myself) but it was bulky and hard to manage for the average user.
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The UI is all fine and good but what about the underlying system? Android can skin and tweak to look just like this but how does the OS function behind the UI? I keep seeing people talk about Meego and sure, it worked well enough (I used it myself) but it was bulky and hard to manage for the average user.

Bulky? The whole point of Meego, and now Sailfish is to minimize learning curve and make things easier to access. Fewer motions/touches to do what you want to do.
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Bulky? The whole point of Meego, and now Sailfish is to minimize learning curve and make things easier to access. Fewer motions/touches to do what you want to do.

Did you completely ignore what I wrote? That is the UI, NOT the kernel. The Meego kernel is a traditional Linux kernel. Sure, it works on phones but it isn't designed for phones like iOS, Android, or WP7/8. It adapts as well as can be expected but it isn't an exclusive phone OS like the others. I was simply questioning what the underlying kernel is in this new phone.
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Agreed. Loving my Lumia 920!
Anywho, "Jolla" seems like a mix between Android and Windows Phone. Not really seeing anything different other than the tiles look different than the WP live tiles.
I'll say it now..RIP Jolla

+1 for the 920
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Did you completely ignore what I wrote? That is the UI, NOT the kernel. The Meego kernel is a traditional Linux kernel. Sure, it works on phones but it isn't designed for phones like iOS, Android, or WP7/8. It adapts as well as can be expected but it isn't an exclusive phone OS like the others. I was simply questioning what the underlying kernel is in this new phone.

The guys who developed this are the guys who basically helped design the N9 and Meego for that phone, so I'm pretty sure the Linux Meego is their starting point...it isn't just a UI.
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webOS is still the best...

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Did you completely ignore what I wrote? That is the UI, NOT the kernel. The Meego kernel is a traditional Linux kernel. Sure, it works on phones but it isn't designed for phones like iOS, Android, or WP7/8. It adapts as well as can be expected but it isn't an exclusive phone OS like the others. I was simply questioning what the underlying kernel is in this new phone.

Um what? Linux is designed to be malleable to whatever you put it on. That's why Google choose to take it and use it as the base for Android (Java on top of Linux as it's sometimes referred to). You didn't even have to design the kernel from the ground up if you're lazy...you can just add to it. But, I am also wondering what branch they are on; now I'm wondering what branch Android is on as well. Have they moved into the 3.0 kernels yet?
     
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With my Nokia N900 with Maemo 5 OS in my hand, as my smartphone for about three years, which is the grandparent of Sailfish OS, and the father of MeeGo 6 OS in the Nokia N9, I can say that I'm interested in this. I hope they can get an interesting pone in the market before my N900 dies of age. And I can tell you, the resistive screen as more tan a handfull of scratches by now XD
     
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Um what? Linux is designed to be malleable to whatever you put it on. That's why Google choose to take it and use it as the base for Android (Java on top of Linux as it's sometimes referred to). You didn't even have to design the kernel from the ground up if you're lazy...you can just add to it. But, I am also wondering what branch they are on; now I'm wondering what branch Android is on as well. Have they moved into the 3.0 kernels yet?

I'm not saying it is bad. I'm just pointing out that this UI can be very pretty and still be a horrible OS for a phone. UI is only a part of the equation. *nix works great for phones when that is what it is aimed at doing.,
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Honestly I don't understand the niche that's so excited about Jolla. The videos don't look user friendly, the interface looks cluttered and difficult to teach average people. But all I hear about is either the UI or some special openness that Android actually already has. I'm also not hearing about things like GPU acceleration and efficiency that make WP so technically great. So where is the actual advantage?

I'm telling you now. It'll be the alternative OS that flops like a fish. They are aiming for China, and they might get something there, but not in the US.
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Agreed. Loving my Lumia 920!
Anywho, "Jolla" seems like a mix between Android and Windows Phone. Not really seeing anything different other than the tiles look different than the WP live tiles.
I'll say it now..RIP Jolla

I'm behind you. Ignoring the existence of the Lumia line really tells us how out of touch they are. I honestly thought this thread was going to be some blogger who was behind the times and just discovered the Lumia 920.
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