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I honestly have no idea why you're getting so hung up on semantics. It's a task manager. In Jelly Bean it's where you manage tasks not just switch apps. The solution I gave the OP works 99% of the time and that is all that matters.
Excuse me?

I'm not getting 'hung up on semantics', you're telling the OP to look through this list of apps because they're all using resources - but they're not. Even then, there's no way of telling which app is hogging resources more than another because it just shows a bunch of thumbnails with no indication as to which one's using more RAM or CPU cycles, etc.

Now, I'm not trying to say that my solution is perfect but at least it actually shows you running apps, rather than any apps that have been opened since you last turned on the phone. I don't want to ruin this thread by having an argument about this, so I'll make this my last post on the matter, but what you're saying is just wrong.
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Excuse me?
I'm not getting 'hung up on semantics', you're telling the OP to look through this list of apps because they're all using resources - but they're not. Even then, there's no way of telling which app is hogging resources more than another because it just shows a bunch of thumbnails with no indication as to which one's using more RAM or CPU cycles, etc.
Now, I'm not trying to say that my solution is perfect but at least it actually shows you running apps, rather than any apps that have been opened since you last turned on the phone. I don't want to ruin this thread by having an argument about this, so I'll make this my last post on the matter, but what you're saying is just wrong.

Obviously you didn't read my post and actually, if an app is in that list then it's technically running in the background. It isn't closed until you swipe it away. That's why when you tap on an app in that list it resumes from it's last spot instead of starting clean. Same way an application will run in the background in Windows or Linux. Don't come into a thread and tell someone they are wrong when you don't know what you're talking about. That is how misinformation spreads. edit: Additionally, you CAN see all the information about each app just by a long-press.

Yes they are all using resources if they are in that list. They are in memory and they will use CPU. Not as much as when they are in the foreground though. If an app is in an error state or if its just written poorly it may very well be consuming full resources even when running in the background. If you go through the settings like Ellis mentioned then you won't see all the possible culprits and you may very well end up running in circles which is most likely going to be the case. Look at the apps the way I explained and swipe them away one by one. It's simple and effective.
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Obviously you didn't read my post and actually, if an app is in that list then it's technically running in the background. It isn't closed until you swipe it away. That's why when you tap on an app in that list it resumes from it's last spot instead of starting clean. Same way an application will run in the background in Windows or Linux. Don't come into a thread and tell someone they are wrong when you don't know what you're talking about. That is how misinformation spreads.
Yes they are all using resources if they are in that list. They are in memory and they will use CPU. Not as much as when they are in the foreground though. If an app is in an error state or if its just written poorly it may very well be consuming full resources even when running in the background. If you go through the settings like Ellis mentioned then you won't see all the possible culprits and you may very well end up running in circles which is most likely going to be the case. Look at the apps the way I explained and swipe them away one by one. It's simple and effective.

Isn't it a most-recently-used list? I mean of course, if something is still running in the background, it will still be there (and if something was indeed running and you swipe it away it should close it). I know that on my HTC One S it has a similar pop-up menu, and it has plenty of apps listed that I have already exited out of. I think it's just a faster method than opening your app drawer and browsing through it to find the app you were just using.
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Isn't it a most-recently-used list? I mean of course, if something is still running in the background, it will still be there (and if something was indeed running and you swipe it away it should close it). I know that on my HTC One S it has a similar pop-up menu, and it has plenty of apps listed that I have already exited out of. I think it's just a faster method than opening your app drawer and browsing through it to find the app you were just using.

If I completely exit out of an app for example, with a built in exit button that works... then it is no longer in that app list. Many apps are written to not allow such exiting... because Android pushes the app in memory is more efficient rule... which is generally true.
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I'm sorry but I'm going to have to agree with Ellis. That manager you can find in the settings is way more of a task manager than the Recent Apps menu.
And it's not that hard to understand, if you go there you can see the apps running in the background at the moment. The only problem with that manager is that you can't for example see CPU usage...

But anyway, I still haven't found out what is slowing my phone down, this is a bit ridiculous...
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I guess if it really is an issue, you could try backing everything up and performing a factory reset (or whatever they call it - I rarely use this feature because I use custom ROMs, so it's easier just to re-flash the ROM)
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I guess if it really is an issue, you could try backing everything up and performing a factory reset (or whatever they call it - I rarely use this feature because I use custom ROMs, so it's easier just to re-flash the ROM)

Hmm, I guess it may be worth a try... Is there any way I can backup my apps and app data without rooting?
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Hmm, I guess it may be worth a try... Is there any way I can backup my apps and app data without rooting?
Hm, it's not as easy as with root access (well, with root access it's super easy) but a bit of Googling revealed that this might be worth a try:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/ultimate-backup-tool-no-root-required/
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Hm, it's not as easy as with root access (well, with root access it's super easy) but a bit of Googling revealed that this might be worth a try:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/ultimate-backup-tool-no-root-required/

Wow awesome, that should do the trick! Thanks.
I probably don't have the time to try that today though, but I'm going to try to do it tomorrow so and then we'll see how it went.
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