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post #11 of 20
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I would like input too, if possible. Since I don't know as much as you guys when it comes to PC components, I'd want to see different perspectives on builds :]

And thanks for the help Fred, I really like what you posted. Especially the motherboard. People are praising it, so I'm pretty sure that's the one to get now. I'm a bit concerned about the 3GB graphics card though. Is there anything bad with having all that memory on one card? But I'm also thinking that the 384-bit helps it out.

I'll also answer any questions if you guys have any.
post #12 of 20
No, there's nothing wrong with having 3gb of vRAM on a graphics card.

RAM is just fast temporary storage for data your computer is using right at that moment. Having too much is kind of like having an extra hard drive attached to your computer with nothing on it - it doesn't do you any good but it can't hurt. And of course vRAM is just the kind of RAM that's stuck on a graphics card for its exclusive use.
    
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Heh heh, the pricing after your recommendations really did go to 1.6k. I'll have to thank you. Still hoping for input though, but this is solid.

Honestly, I didn't think the wattage would be was low as 450W, but I tried it here and it was around there: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

Assuming it's right and I put all the correct things in the boxes, of course.
Edited by taeZaKi - 12/4/12 at 8:16am
post #14 of 20
MisterFred's recommendations are fine. It would be a good system and the pricing is even reasonable. I guess I see the lifespan of SSDs important because I recycle my components into other systems. I am using my Samsung 470 as a network and portable drive now (usb 3.0 or on an asus router) so longevity is paramount. Still, with the way memory is evolving it is getting cheaper to just replace and upgrade. This is just food for thought -- a differing opinion that will help you make an informed decision. EDIT: after consideration, I tend to agree with mr. Fred. Here is another decent and reasonably priced option: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226226

I knew the sabertooth was expensive, but yikes... thats a lot. Save your money.

There are some great air coolers on the market too. You can keep your system quiet and cool without a fancy water cooler and still have overcloking headroom. I'm no expert here, but I know they exist.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106161 fairly cheap. someone else might have a better suggestion.

A note about PSU wattage and quality:
Power supplies are not most efficient at max continuous or peak power. The efficiency is more of a bell curve. Sure 450w is enough, but that unit's peak efficiency might be at somewhere around 250-300w (for example). 80+ rated units are often better throughout their range, but some unrated units can be efficient as well. Higher efficiency means less heat and a slightly lower cost of operation (very slight). I would say there is a sweet spot there where unit price vs efficiency match up well. A PSU with a gold 80+ rating for your system could be less than $85, but an 80+ bronze unit could be under $50! The difference of $35 is way more than the money you would save in a few years of constant-on usage. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171060 Due to decent efficiency, 450w should be enough.

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Edited by dizzy4 - 12/4/12 at 11:37am
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post #15 of 20
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Thanks for your inputs and coming to some sort of consensus for my needs. I recently watched a video explaining that sort of bell curve. I was a bit comfused on how you worded that last statement though. Basically it would be better for me to just get that bronze unit (or something else efficient enough) you recommended for the long run? And is that TT air cooler you linked an alt. to Fred's recommendation?

Anyway, I guess that this is pretty much done. Maybe a couple changes in the PSU/SSD, but the general build is going to stay! Thank you guys very much!
post #16 of 20
Much better build for your money and the PSU should provide you with more than enough room for a second 7970 in the future. thumb.gif

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post #17 of 20
$155 for a psu?! You must be crazy. I suggest a 500w bronze PSU because bronze rated units are a lot cheaper and only 2-5% less efficient. 5% more efficiency will take decades to be worth the increase in cost. Another reason for 500w is that your computer will most likely not be at peak load that often, even when gaming. This puts it in a more efficient range (about 275-325w) when doing most tasks. The perk of having an 80+ rated unit is the bell curve being less drastic meaning you will have higher efficiency at idle and peak load states.
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Should I opt for a 500W if I was planning for two video cards in the future? Or just in general for my build? Earlier you mentioned 450W, so...
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I'd get more than 500W.
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Should I opt for a 500W if I was planning for two video cards in the future? Or just in general for my build? Earlier you mentioned 450W, so...

for one video card 450w or 500w will most likely be enough. Depending on the cards, you might still be ok with 2. You would probably want a little more power for 2 higher power cards -- like 650w or more. I still think it would be better to upgrade to one single newer and faster card in the future rather than having 2. If you are set on dual setups, that's fine, but I used to rum an overclocked xeon conroe with dual 8800gts' on a nice 450w unit. It really was pushing the limits though. Stuff is using less and less power lately, so it's up to you.
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