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Hi guys,

Lately my HDD in my laptop has been kind of slow to load things. Today I am copying a lot of big fig files for my Skyrim modding project, and I noticed how slow my transfer rate is. According to the window, when I am copying and pasting just one file and I have been getting speeds around 4 mb/s. When copying 3 or more files at the same time it goes down to 2 mb/s. I'm copying and pasting all from within the same drive. Also, this has my windows OS on it. Again this is my laptop.

The only reason why I could think this is happening is because I moved my HDD to my ODD bay to make room for a new SSD in my HDD bay, but even so I don't even think a 7200 rpm hdd would normally be that slow even in a SATA II bay.

Any idea why this is so slow? It's frustrating mad.gif thanks.
Edited by apav - 12/3/12 at 4:48pm
post #2 of 19
From within the same drive it can be expected. There's a gigantic delay of waiting for the R/W head to read chunks and reposition itself to write chunks, and reposition itself to read more chunks, etc.

You could probably run some benchmarks like hdtune to get a better idea.
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Originally Posted by beers View Post

From within the same drive it can be expected. There's a gigantic delay of waiting for the R/W head to read chunks and reposition itself to write chunks, and reposition itself to read more chunks, etc.

You could probably run some benchmarks like hdtune to get a better idea.
Even with that massive hit, most of the time you see something closer to 20-30MB/sec. He said he's copying one file, which implies a large sequential copy... something the drive should be able to manage.

Definitely run an HDTune benchmark on the drive and post the screenshot. Also post a screenshot of the Health tab. If it's blank, grab Defraggler and post a screenshot of its health tab. That'll help us pinpoint where the issue is. smile.gif

http://www.hdtune.com/download.html
http://www.piriform.com/defraggler
     
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post #4 of 19
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Even with that massive hit, most of the time you see something closer to 20-30MB/sec. He said he's copying one file, which implies a large sequential copy... something the drive should be able to manage.
Definitely run an HDTune benchmark on the drive and post the screenshot. Also post a screenshot of the Health tab. If it's blank, grab Defraggler and post a screenshot of its health tab. That'll help us pinpoint where the issue is. smile.gif
http://www.hdtune.com/download.html
http://www.piriform.com/defraggler

For the bechmark do you want me to do one for Read or Write? It says I need to remove a partition if I want to do a write benchmark, but I don't have a partition on this drive eek.gif
post #5 of 19
Dying drive, most likely.

A symptom i'm all too familiar with as of late. Lost one seagate and two F3's after they had these symptoms.

Regardless of SATA cable swaps, reformats (even low level) etc - the symptoms remained. At best it would go away for a few weeks only to return after a massive BSOD due to the HDD's, then poor transfer rates would return. A few months later, the drive(s) would die.

Now would be a good time to backup data. Mark my words. I run Western Digital Caviar Blacks now specifically for their good warranty.
Edited by Thingamajig - 12/4/12 at 2:19am
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Dying drive, most likely.
A symptom i'm all too familiar with as of late. Lost one seagate and two F3's after they had these symptoms.
Regardless of SATA cable swaps, reformats (even low level) etc - the symptoms remained. At best it would go away for a few weeks only to return after a massive BSOD due to the HDD's, then poor transfer rates would return. A few months later, the drive would die.
Now would be a good time to backup data. Mark my words.

It's an HDD that came in my laptop.. and since I swapped around a lot of the drives inside, I can't necessarily send it back =\

Here's a picture of the health tab, I'll do the benchmark as soon as I hear if you need me to do read or write (and how to fix this partition warning):



Is my drive really dying?

Edit: Didn't know which benchmark you wanted me to use so I just did file benchmark in the meantime. Hope this is relevant for what you need:

Edited by apav - 12/4/12 at 2:26am
post #7 of 19
That many reallocated sectors definitely points towards a failing drive.
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That many reallocated sectors definitely points towards a failing drive.

Oh no frown.gif This really is bad luck. I had to reinstall windows onto my HDD after my OS on my SSD was giving me problems. And now my HDD is failing me as well, so that's going to mean another reinstall and setting up my computer again? eek.gif Well, I know for sure now my SSD needs to be RMA'd. I mean, I just looked at it in HDTune:


I'm going to RMA my SSD but that's easy since I bought it seperately. But my HDD came with my Lenovo laptop. Is there a way just to send the HDD back to the HDD manufacturer rather than sending the whole laptop back to lenovo? That means I have to take out my SSD's, and put my optical drive and HDD back in their regular bays.
post #9 of 19
I don't think so you can do that. Because your drive is mostly going to be an OEM drive whose warranty is only honored only by the OEM.

Try out its serial number at http://support.seagate.com/customer/en-us/warranty_validation.jsp and see if it shows up as end-user.
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post #10 of 19
If you're on the market for any kind of storage medium, i'd place warranty before any other factor - this is why i'm now going strictly Western Digital (for HDD's, at least).

I've had terrible luck over the past year from failing drives that display these exact symptoms prior to their death.

The drives i had that died were also OEM, and to my memory, had no warranty. I was pretty much screwed and it's a mistake i don't intend to repeat. Data loss sucks.
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