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Poll Results: Is this a good idea? Click each one you would answer yes too.(Please only experience with submersion cooling, water cooling or any other extreme cooling)

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Do you think it will meet my cooling needs?
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Do you think it is smart to invest in this equipment instead of a new case for the long run if I add a 3x3 radiator?
  • 20% of voters (2)
    Do it because its awesome to look at?
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Don't do it because of bad personal experience.
  • 10% of voters (1)
    Don't do it because it will over heat or had over heating issues your self.
  • 30% of voters (3)
    There are cheaper alternatives below $100-$140 that it would cost you to build this and on pair or better cooling performance.( Please post below if this is the case)
  • 10% of voters (1)
    The H50 pump will fall due to the mineral oil.
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Don't do if because someone you know had heating issues.
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Don't do it because someone else had their system destroyed.
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Do it because of others success.
  • 10% of voters (1)
    Will seriously consider to follow my example if successful.
  • 50% of voters (5)
    Just casually interested in the topic and how it works out.
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Do it because of personal success.
10 Total Votes  
post #11 of 18
Thread Starter 
Matt-matt
I wouldn't be able to use two h50 let alone a h100 with my case. I'm not turning down water loops for anything else besides cost and it would have to be external
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post #12 of 18
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Salamachaa

From what i have seen there is no need for a resovoir since the pump is submerged in the oil. Yes i am submerging everything except the drives and the psu. Like decnet oil is bot as good for cooling in a loop as water i already knew that from my own research before hand. However i know people use a cooling loop to a radiator to cool down the oil.
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post #13 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by opforce View Post

Matt-matt
I wouldn't be able to use two h50 let alone a h100 with my case. I'm not turning down water loops for anything else besides cost and it would have to be external

Get a new case then? I dunno. smile.gif
 
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post #14 of 18
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matt-matt

Im trying to find out the cheapest way to solve this issue. If I was going to buy a case it would be a Corsair 500R or an NZXT 810 Switch. And neither one of them would solve this issue. Yes they would probably lower the gpu temps from 80 C to 75 C for each. Thats not really going to help the vacuum clear stock 470 GTX.. Plus I don' t know if my H50 would fit in an SLI set up.

Thanks for you opinion matt-matt. If I was going to spend $300+ I would do something like you said but use a proper water loops in the Switch.
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post #15 of 18
the cheapest fix his check out this thread http://www.overclock.net/t/1203528/official-nvidia-gpu-mod-club-aka-the-mod


buy an antec 620. it would cool your gpu down immensely well you wouldn't believe the temps you'll get after the mod. tried it with my gtx 480's before. id even go as far as saying it even beat some temps of custom loops I've seen..
     
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post #16 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by decnet View Post

The formula to calculate the energy usage to heat up water under ideal circumstances (i.e. no energy lost on the side) is:
power [W] * time [seconds] = mass [g] * heat capacity [Ws/g*K] * Temperature difference [K]
=> time = mass * heat capacity * temp difference / power
For heating up 10l (=10kg) of water to 40°C above ambient that would be (ignoring the slight change of heat capacity that comes with changing temperatures):
time = 10000g * 4,18 Ws/g*K * 40K / 400W = 4180 seconds = 70 minutes.

Would this really be an issue? Would the heat dissipate pretty quickly because of the large surface area?
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post #17 of 18
If you are doing an oil mineral build, then check out these two links: ( http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php ) and ( http://pinoytekkie.wordpress.com/2012/09/09/how-to-build-a-mineral-oil-pc/ ).
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post #18 of 18
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jprovido;

That would be great if I had a place to mount it. The one place I could put it the H50 is there. I do have many 120mm fans but the radiators are too big to be put side by side and the only ones available to mount on are the side fans. That would be a pain to open and close. I could just get a new air cooler like a zalmens and mount the H50 on one of the cards but I think the H50 is too tall. Plus I don't think it has the cooling capacity for the 470 GTX. It was designed for an 95 watt with maybe the ability to do 150 watt vs the 470 GTX 215 watt. If I have to buy two coolers that would fit my needs it would be around $110 I fell. Which is just about the same as the mineral oil setup and that wouldn't cool the other gpu.

Your idea is brilliant if I had a place to put it.

Salamachaa;

It actually is an issue decnet is right it will over heat without some kind of loop to a radiator. There is a lot of surface area that would pull out some hear so I know he calculated about 70min i believe so it might take and hour and a half. That is why I wanted to use the H50 in a loop with the push pull fans to that 120 mm radiator. Also the latent heat of mineral oil is very high meaning it takes a long to heat up and cool down. Mineral oil is not good for a 24/7 scenario without a radiator loop of at least 2x 240mm or 3x3 120mm(9 120mm). I always turn off my computer.

Captian1337;

Thanks those are both sources to read and watch from before taking on a project like this. I already saw both of those videos and many others. Thats why I know so much about the capacity to cool. I really need to know alternatives if there is any suits my needs and money. I also want to know from an experienced water cooling expert on their take of an H50 on what it can do.


I know it sounds like I am being stubborn about keeping to mineral oil but I haven't heard a alternative that would actually be cheaper. jprovido came close and so did decnet.
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