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Okay so im getting a new processor. i play games at 1080p and max out everything to the point where i get minimum 30-40fps.

My gpu is a Sapphire 7870.
An 8350 would obviously be cheaper but is a sabertooth z77 and a 3570k that costs 600 dollars (converted from my currency) really worth it?

Yes this is an amd vs intel thread. but stay mature and helpfull for ME.
 
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Well considering you already have a REALLY nice AMD board, May as well just go 8350. thumb.gif

Unless you want to change platforms, but the 8350 would be the most cost-effective route.
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post #3 of 12
8350. Cheaper and you won't notice a huge difference in gaming, if any at all.
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Going from a 1055T @ 4.2 to a 8350 isn't an upgrade but a sidegrade.
The i5 will be an upgrade, but it's not worth it when you look at what you have right now.

Think with your wallet, 2013 isn't going to be a good year for it.
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Since you already have a 990FX board just go with a FX-8350, AMD has caught up to Intel on the single GPU gaming side of things. Unless you didn't have a 990FX board, then I'd say go with the 3570K.
Edited by TKFlight - 12/4/12 at 11:36am
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As much as i prefer Intel,i think 8350 would actually be the better buy in your case.You already have an awesome Am3+ board,the sabertooth 990x so just putting an fx-8350 would be your best way to go. +who knows,maybe in the near future games will actually use all them threads of the fx series.(BF3 is already using up to 8 threads )
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That thread became a cluster********* of immature intel vs amd. in simple no i didnt really learn anything.

Also hokies lurks around those threads. ill avoid them at all costs.
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First: you're making an unfair comparison because of some faulty assumptions.

What are these? Well mostly that you'll see any benefit from getting an expensive motherboard like an ASUS Sabertooth Z77. There's no reason to get the more expensive Z77 motherboards unless you have special needs like running 3 graphics cards or something. Overclocking an i5-3570k is not hard on motherboards, unlike AMD side, so the cheap Z77s will be just as effective for your purposes. Replace the Sabertooth with, say, a Gigabyte z77 z77-d3h you'll find that the i5-3570k system is actually quite comparable in price to the fx-8350 system.

For instance, at komplett.no an i5-3570k +mobo would be 2450 kroner (is that the right currency?) An fx-8350 + acceptable mobo would probably be about 2150 kroner.
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=660227
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=758964

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=766047
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=759848

Second, you should realize that for gaming the i5-3570k is the better processor. My favorite benchmark is bit tech's Shogun Total War benchmark, here showcasing a CPU-heavy, GPU-light scenario:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/6

I like that benchmark primarily because it includes overclocked processors, not just measurements at stock speeds, so you can get a more realistic idea of how a processor will perform if you're an overclocker. Here are a number of other benchmarks. You'll see in these a number of games, like Crysis 2, where what processor you have pretty much doesn't matter. That's because these games are all CPU-light, GPU-heavy, so it's only the GPU that matters. But there are also games like Dirt Showdown where there's a small benefit for the i5-3570k. That's the version of the comparison of the two processors in gaming: most of the time they'll perform equally flawlessly. In some (fewer) situations, the i5-3570k will be superior:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300_6.html#sect0

So, long story short, the i5-3570k is the clearly better gaming processor. Enough to justify the increased cost? Depends on how much 300 kroner is worth to you. Supposedly everyone in Norway swims in oil-money every day, so if that's true you should probably get the i5-3570k tongue.gif.

P.S. If you're not overclocking, forget this issue entirely and just get an i5-3470 with a cheap B75 motherboard.
    
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First: you're making an unfair comparison because of some faulty assumptions.
What are these? Well mostly that you'll see any benefit from getting an expensive motherboard like an ASUS Sabertooth Z77. There's no reason to get the more expensive Z77 motherboards unless you have special needs like running 3 graphics cards or something. Overclocking an i5-3570k is not hard on motherboards, unlike AMD side, so the cheap Z77s will be just as effective for your purposes. Replace the Sabertooth with, say, a Gigabyte z77 z77-d3h you'll find that the i5-3570k system is actually quite comparable in price to the fx-8350 system.
For instance, at komplett.no an i5-3570k +mobo would be 2450 kroner (is that the right currency?) An fx-8350 + acceptable mobo would probably be about 2150 kroner.
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=660227
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=758964
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=766047
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=759848
Second, you should realize that for gaming the i5-3570k is the better processor. My favorite benchmark is bit tech's Shogun Total War benchmark, here showcasing a CPU-heavy, GPU-light scenario:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/6
I like that benchmark primarily because it includes overclocked processors, not just measurements at stock speeds, so you can get a more realistic idea of how a processor will perform if you're an overclocker. Here are a number of other benchmarks. You'll see in these a number of games, like Crysis 2, where what processor you have pretty much doesn't matter. That's because these games are all CPU-light, GPU-heavy, so it's only the GPU that matters. But there are also games like Dirt Showdown where there's a small benefit for the i5-3570k. That's the version of the comparison of the two processors in gaming: most of the time they'll perform equally flawlessly. In some (fewer) situations, the i5-3570k will be superior:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300_6.html#sect0
So, long story short, the i5-3570k is the clearly better gaming processor. Enough to justify the increased cost? Depends on how much 300 kroner is worth to you. Supposedly everyone in Norway swims in oil-money every day, so if that's true you should probably get the i5-3570k tongue.gif.
P.S. If you're not overclocking, forget this issue entirely and just get an i5-3470 with a cheap B75 motherboard.

Wow helpfull O_O. And yea thats the right currency. idk if you actually converted 3000 nok to dollars. but its around 520 us dollars which is alot :/. i think i might go for the 8350 and get intel later (maybe)

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