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I am a gamer myself. Have been for 30+ years. I have built many computers in my time. In the interest of saving time I tend to only catch up with the technology every time I "upgrade." I google a part and usually end up reading 3-4 articles on the subject (www.tomshardware.com is an awesome site for this). And that is exactly what I've been doing the last week. I use the term upgrade loosely here, because what I'm really doing is re-using all the old parts that I can, and buy only what will really improve my performance. This saves a good amount of cash, since now I'm running 3 gaming stations. Mine, my wife's and my kid's.

So I usually only buy 4 basic parts: CPU, motherboard, RAM and video card. But other components sneak in as well sometimes. I'll detail each in their own sections.

CPU: I have done a lot of research on the CPU type that I want. AMD is just plain bad and the i7 is a waste of money for a gamer. Fact is, most games out now and in the foreseeable future just don't run that many threads. What you should be looking for is proc speed. The four cores of the i5 should be plenty. For the i5 3570K, you're spending about 230.

Motherboard/ For that CPU you would need an LGA1155 Z77 chipset. This will cost around 100-150 bucks. I'm looking at the MSI Z77A-G43 Intel Z77 LGA 1155 Motherboard, 120 bucks with MIR of $20, so if that goes well, then it's 100. Although this one doesn't seem to have enough fan power heads for my case. I may have to reconsider.

RAM: I'm not quite sure which brand I'm going to go with right now as this is one area that I haven't researched yet. I might come back later and edit my post when I do decide. But I think I'm going to go with 16 GB, costing around 100 bucks perhaps.

CPU Cooler (optional): If you're going to be overclocking, you will need your own cooling solution. I have not overclocked in the past, so I can't really comment. I'm sure you can read all you want on these forums though smile.gif However, if you're not overclocking, then the stock cooler that comes with the chip should be OK. That is if your case has an adequate fan setup.

Video Card/GPU: Right now according to everything I've read, the best buy on the market for the money is the Radeon 7870. At about 240 bucks, it packs quite a wallop. Read the Tom's Hardware article though for your own price point. If you're a gamer, you will want the best you can afford. With 1500 bucks as your price range, you shouldn't have a problem fitting the Radeon 7870 or equivalent Nvidia option as your GPU.

Case: What I look for is cooling, quality of frame and mounts and ease of working on it. Mine is an Antec Nine-Hundred and it retails around 100 bucks. This case is a three years old, and there are different versions out now. I can say that it is quiet and cool. It has a large 200 mm exhaust fan out the top, two smaller 120 mm intake fans on the front and one 120 mm exhaust out the back. There's a 120 mm fan mount on the window as well, but I don't have one installed. It even has two convenient USB slots and a firewire port and headphone/mic jacks on the top of the case. Great for attaching a drive, headphones or webcam without having to reach around the back.

Other non-essential peripherals:

Monitor: Possibly the most important of the non-essentials. I would definitely recommend you upgrading from your 19". Depending on the size you want, you could be spending between 130 and 270 bucks here. I wouldn't go with anything smaller than 22" though. Don't be confused with all the numbers they like to brand them with like response time, contrast ratio, brightness and the like. Ignore most of it and key on the top resolution. Don't get one that can't do 1920x1080. Just shop around and get the best deal you can for the size and a manufacturer you can trust. Mine is an ASUS VH226H, but I wish I had a little bigger screen these days. Or better yet, a second one.

Power Supply: Power is pretty important. But you probably don't need as much as you might think. 500W would probably do nicely for what we have above. But you can google power calculators and put in your specs.

Network: Depending on your motherboard, you may need a wifi addin card. But if you can do wire, most mobos come with a gig NIC on it.

Optical drive: I haven't needed a new one for quite a while now. And I only use DVD. Your choice.

That's pretty much it.

EDIT: Some typos
Edited by Razortoe - 12/4/12 at 9:43pm
post #32 of 67
Here is a small version I tossed together. i will do a mid and full tower next both with SLi and xfire. Please rate it and lemmy know.



Forgot to add monitor and OS. Win7 or 8?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175
post #33 of 67
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Originally Posted by CyberDemonz101 View Post

Here is a small version I tossed together. i will do a mid and full tower next both with SLi and xfire. Please rate it and lemmy know.

Forgot to add monitor and OS. Win7 or 8?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175

I read about Win 8 today. There's no difference in performance. So if you can get your head wrapped around the new interface, then Windows 8 would be ok. For me though, Windows 7. I personally don't like the look and feel of Windows 8.
post #34 of 67
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Originally Posted by CyberDemonz101 View Post

Here is a small version I tossed together. i will do a mid and full tower next both with SLi and xfire. Please rate it and lemmy know.

Forgot to add monitor and OS. Win7 or 8?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175
It looks phenomenal to be honest. 1) To be completely honest I would prefer a bigger tower though. I don't know if it really matters. Could the best possible small rig run with the best of a bigger tower? Or since its smaller will it have less power in it? also as far as SSDs go, I''m not to sure I really want to spend the money on them. I was honestly thinking of maybe getting a smaller SSD to put my OS on then getting a diff HD for my storage. I don't know how well that would work out but it was just a thought I had.
post #35 of 67
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It looks phenomenal to be honest. 1) To be completely honest I would prefer a bigger tower though. I don't know if it really matters. Could the best possible small rig run with the best of a bigger tower? Or since its smaller will it have less power in it? also as far as SSDs go, I''m not to sure I really want to spend the money on them. I was honestly thinking of maybe getting a smaller SSD to put my OS on then getting a diff HD for my storage. I don't know how well that would work out but it was just a thought I had.
Same here, I don't like the look or feel of it either. I would MUCH rather run 7.
post #36 of 67
next up mid case with os7 all the bits. You have to choose mouse and keyboard. AND it has a watercooled cpu 1 ssd and 1 hdd. You can get a smaller one just go in and choose which one.



Ya thats too small. So link time!
ASUS 24X DVD Burner 19.99

Fractal Design Define R4 with Window Black Pearl Silent ATX Mid Tower Case 119.99

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 109.00 (save $40)

ASUS VS Series VS238H-P Black 23" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 50,000,000:1 174.99 (save $25.00. Plus I have the 25 tis sweeeeeet)

EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW+ 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 449.99

G.SKILL Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 89.99

ASRock Z77 Extreme9 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 299.99

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor 214.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

CORSAIR Hydro Series H80i Water Cooler 104.99 (save $5)

Crucial M4 2 2.5" 128GB SATA III (SSD) 109.99 (save$40)

Total $1,914.88 give or take a tad for taxes and maybe more shipping.
Edited by CyberDemonz101 - 12/4/12 at 10:19pm
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Originally Posted by CyberDemonz101 View Post

next up mid case with os7 all the bits. You have to choose mouse and keyboard. AND it has a watercooled cpu 1 ssd and 1 hdd. You can get a smaller one just go in and choose which one.

Ya thats too small. So link time!
Ok I'll check it out really fast. As far as the watercooling, thats my only concern. Is it something I will have to put together myself? as someone said earlier watercooling is more of an advance subject and I honestly know nothing about it.
post #38 of 67
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r0sg Ok so after looking at some of your guys imput and what not I played around with the pcpartpicker. I don't really know if I even have all the parts I need. lol

But if you don't mind please take a look and let me know what you think, and please please give me some input. if there is anything you would change.
post #39 of 67
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Originally Posted by Volt0 View Post

Ok I'll check it out really fast. As far as the watercooling, thats my only concern. Is it something I will have to put together myself? as someone said earlier watercooling is more of an advance subject and I honestly know nothing about it.

Enclosed WC system. Slap and go. Just mount the rad to the back fan area at the top and g2g.

Also I updated my last post to show the links to them.


PC pick a part version. Saves 100 plus.


I can go cheaper if you like. save money on the board and ram. But all this is just tossed together we can change anything to what you want. The case is the biggest change to give you the look you want.
Edited by CyberDemonz101 - 12/4/12 at 10:34pm
post #40 of 67
That $120 PSU is excessive. Get one around 500W with a bronze rating for $40. Also consider getting a 1440p monitor if you can. Games would look great on it. You can just swap out a Nvidia card for the AMD and a 3570k for the 3770k I put in my earlier post and you will be happy.

Check it out again. The TJ08-E is a great case (inverted mATX layout) and very unique.

I redid it for you. FYI you can get a cheaper ($200) monitor if you need to save money, but here is my revised build w/ nvidia. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r0yv

EDIT: Oh yeah dont forget win8 will get directx 11.1 and win7 won't go higher than dx11. This means no need to buy a new OS when you upgrade to DX11.1 games and videocard.
Edited by dizzy4 - 12/4/12 at 10:34pm
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