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Is Voyager 1 capable of being "steered?" I was under the impression it was just floating through space using momentum.

It has steering thrusters on it, plus part of it is like a turret an can pan from side to side...though I don't think they been used in a long time
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There are several milestones to leaving the solar system. The first is getting outside of Pluto's orbit, then getting outside the Oort cloud, and I'm sure there's others. The one Voyager is currently about to cross is the final milestone, where it leaves the space shielded by the Sun's magnetic field.
What happens then? More likely damage to the instruments?
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i see what your saying and agree for the most part, but... what causes gravity then and what is it?, is it a type of energy therefore can be absorbed and changed? also hydrogen might be quite abundant but it doesnt actually have that much mass, i can understand once its all together acting the way you say,... but getting it together in the first place... are they sure it isnt electrons or something else coming into play? or equilibrium gone crazy? how can they just say oh its gravity and it be correct? if hydroggen itself has enough gravity to pull more hydrogen, then shouldnt something bigger and denser do it aswell only "better"? i agree with part of the theory just not all of it, have they actually proven any of this somehow?
btw ive seen that steven hawking show and that is the show i disagreed with lots of his theories, i know he's crazy smart and all, but i wouldnt be human if i didnt question things that didnt seem 100% right to me smile.gif
The answer is basically yes. What you believe that you understand from everyday observation is actually a subset of how the universe works. If you don't have any knowledge of how the universe is observed at massive and sub/atomic scales.... then your understanding/interpretation may be flawed based on limited subjective observation.
The more complete answer is relatively long and quite complex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_field_equations

The reduced equation for non-relativitistic is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_law_of_universal_gravitation


"steven hawkings makes no sense, gravity makes no sense"

"nope. makes total sense, here's some tensor linear algebra to prove it"

lol. futility.
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what causes gravity then and what is it?

Gravity is a force, everything causes it because of their mass. The Higgs Boson we're trying to find is what we think gives everything it's mass and will complete the standard model.

When you as if bigger things would do it better, they do. Stars! skip back a few minutes on the video i linked and you see a huge splash of purple and orange. the exact same thing is happening there. individual stars attracting to each other thus pulling more and more in until you get very high dense areas of stars and very low dense areas of stars.

Also don't forget. Hydrogen may be small, but there is LOTS of it and it's not sitting still in space, it's moving, there is turbulence so eventually, some hydrogen particles will meet and collide with other Hydrogen particles which, in turn, speeds up the process of 'clumping' together.


Anyone else please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, I did A-Level Physics at high school only 2 years ago, but this is what i believe to be correct, no?
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2) China does not have the technology and/or supply chains to create extreme precision parts

I highly doubt that. Aside from their own space program, they also have a booming high tech computer fabrication industry and are one of the few countries in the world who has nuclear weapons, which requires a large and specialized manufacturing base. The CNSA (China National Space Administration) started in 1956, they aren't exactly "new to the block".

I know it's vogue to hate on China, but really, they aren't the backwards country that many like to play they are.
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What happens then? More likely damage to the instruments?

Scientists have absolutely no idea. We don't know what space outside of the Sun's protection is like, Voyager is the first to have reached that far. Each day Voyager is going further into unknown territory.
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Scientists have absolutely no idea. We don't know what space outside of the Sun's protection is like, Voyager is the first to have reached that far. Each day Voyager is going further into unknown territory.

My guess it that on December 21st it will bump into the glass that houses our "universe" in Gods personal "snow globe", break it, and that will be the real cause of the end of us. wink.gif

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i know this is a valid and documented theaory but i dont agree, what causes gravity to be in that certain spot? ive been thinking this since watching into the universe with steven hawking the other day... all due respect to the man, i personally found alot of his theories, to not seem quite right... i guess thats why theyre just theories right, just seem to have alot of assumptions that are treated as being true rolleyes.gif anyways not starting a fight just my personal opinion smile.gif
EDIT i do agree on the nuclear fusion bit, just the gravity side of things seems off...

Well that's good. At least you see some relevance in these theories. It would be such a shame for Steven Hawking and all these scientists to be making up nonsense that you can easily disprove. Can you let them know about the holes in their theories that you have found?

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i know this is a valid and documented theaory but i dont agree, what causes gravity to be in that certain spot? ive been thinking this since watching into the universe with steven hawking the other day... all due respect to the man, i personally found alot of his theories, to not seem quite right... i guess thats why theyre just theories right, just seem to have alot of assumptions that are treated as being true rolleyes.gif anyways not starting a fight just my personal opinion smile.gif
EDIT i do agree on the nuclear fusion bit, just the gravity side of things seems off...

Heh, actually gravity is about the only aspect of physics that actually makes sense and has easily obtainable evidence. Might be the only aspect like that...
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i know this is a valid and documented theaory but i dont agree, what causes gravity to be in that certain spot? ive been thinking this since watching into the universe with steven hawking the other day... all due respect to the man, i personally found alot of his theories, to not seem quite right... i guess thats why theyre just theories right, just seem to have alot of assumptions that are treated as being true rolleyes.gif anyways not starting a fight just my personal opinion smile.gif
EDIT i do agree on the nuclear fusion bit, just the gravity side of things seems off...

The masses are generally ignorant as to what a theory is in scientific terms. It isn't a guess. Theory is as close to "fact" in your mind as it gets. Facts are actually the lowest piece of information on the totem pole when it comes to understanding anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxVLu8J_d0
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