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TLDR? AMD has 10x less employees than Intel yet they produce processors that directly compete w/ Intels offerings WHILE producing GPU's that directly compete with NVIDIA's offerings.

No, they absolutely do not directly compete with Intel. AMD is currently bottom feeding to stay alive. Directly competing would be having a competitor for the i7 3970x, i7 3930k, i7 3770k or even the i7 2700k.

GPU side of things, yeah, they're very impressive.

You're comparing $170-200 CPUs to $300+ CPUs.... why?

83** competes with i5's just fine, (in fact, the 8350 plays with a 3770 in encoding) and APUs destroy i3's.

Had you said "AMD does not directly compete with Intel in the high-performance segment", then... yes. But to say they don't compete is a lie.
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You're comparing $170-200 CPUs to $300+ CPUs.... why?
83** competes with i5's just fine, (in fact, the 8350 plays with a 3770 in encoding) and APUs destroy i3's.
Had you said "AMD does not directly compete with Intel in the high-performance segment", then... yes. But to say they don't compete is a lie.

Why am I comparing them? Because they exist and if AMD's CPU line wasn't so slow the price difference wouldn't be massive like it is now. They don't directly compete, why can't you accept that? AMD competes with Intel where it can but it sure as hell isn't directly.

AMD's flagship trades blows with an i5..... Wins in some multithreaded situations and gets destroyed in lightly threaded situations. That is how many CPU's down from Intel's flagship? Give me a break.

Would you really say AMD's graphics division was "directly competing" with Nvidia if their flagship was an HD 7850 while Nvidia still had the GTX 690?
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They are directly competing with Intel and NVIDIA while having 90,000 fewer employees. They have the FX-8350 which outperforms the Core i5 3570k is several situations. They don't have to compete with all of Intels products to compete with them. The Core i3's integrated graphics gets absolutely obliterated by all of AMD's APU offerings yet the APU's and Core i3's directly compete with each other.
There are several reasons to buy AMD processors. They're far from irrelevant.
#1. APU's compete with the Core i3 while offering much BETTER integrated graphics and being cheaper.
#2. Hybrid Crossfire (7660D + 6670)
#2. The FX-8350 and FX-8320 are at the same price point as the Core i5 3570K but perform better with Rendering, Decoding, Encoding and Encryption.
#3. HSA in the future for APU's
By the way AMD held 19% of the desktop processor market in 2011 and their long term debt has been cut in half since 2008. They aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
I'm sorry, what? The only place where an FX-chip can even be compared to a 3570k is in multi--threaded apps. Other tan that, it still lags behind.

Though, I am impressed with the new FX-chips.
Edited by Stefy - 12/4/12 at 11:41pm
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#1. Why am I comparing them? Because they exist and if AMD's CPU line wasn't so slow the price difference wouldn't be massive like it is now. They don't directly compete, why can't you accept that? AMD competes with Intel where it can but it sure as hell isn't directly.

#2. AMD's flagship trades blows with an i5..... Wins in some multithreaded situations and gets destroyed in lightly threaded situations. That is how many CPU's down from Intel's flagship? Give me a break.


#3.Would you really say AMD's graphics division was "directly competing" with Nvidia if their flagship was an HD 7850 while Nvidia still had the GTX 690?



#1. I didn't specifically say AMD competes with Intel's high end processors . I said AMD directly competes with Intel. That means AMD has some processors that compete with some of Intels processors not that AMD has a product to compete with every single one of Intels products. AMD only officially makes a 7970 while NVIDIA officially makes the GTX 690 which is faster than the 7970 - yet they still directly compete with each other. The 7990 or 7970 X2's aren't made by AMD. They're non-reference cards made by HIS and PowerColor independently.




#2. AMD has ~10,000 employees divided between their CPU/GPU divisions. Intel has ~100,000 employees total. The fact that AMD can release products that can DIRECTLY compete with Intels Core i5 is an amazing feat. The fact that they can create a processor with the power of a Core i3, shove a 7660D in it and make it consume only 65W (A10-5700) is an amazing feat.




#3. ^^^



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I'm sorry, what? The only place where an FX-chip can even be compared to a 3570k is in multi--threaded apps. Other tan that, it still lags behind.
Though, I am impressed with the new FX-chips.

That's like saying
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What's funny is his blatant ignorance. And also looks like a fag

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701
Edited by M3T4LM4N222 - 12/4/12 at 11:52pm
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Intel France has denied the BGA rumor.
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do tell i'm curious on this way around biggrin.gif

It's called "Getting a new hobby" or "Talking out of ones a**"


Sorry. I couldn't resist.


hmm talking out of ones a**, do you do birthday parties?


i can be a smarta** too lol biggrin.gif
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I guess I will be going AMD in a few years.rolleyes.gif
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I honestly doubt Intel will ditch socketed CPUs, but if they do, go team RED. I mean AMD. tongue.gif
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So in the future it will be, spend a grand for an Intel enthusiast grade chip, or buy an AMD.


Hm.
   
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Uh oh guys - start the self-flagellation and fear mongering now:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/embedded/processors/asb1-bga/Pages/asb1-bga-processor-family.aspx

AVAILABLE AS BGA! OH NOES!


The end of the world COMETH JETZT!

AMD must have noticed the Intel FUD threads before coming up with that announcement.
 
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