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You might want to think again if you're going with 840/840 pro.

Samsung Explains The Firmware Bug Causing The Failures of SSD 840/840 Pro


I personally would go with OCZ especially after their whole firmware issue fiasco. They have a new CEO at the helm and stability and reliability is a #1 priority, because if OCZ takes another hit like they did with Vertex 3 it might be game over for them. OCZ is a solid choice right now.
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You might want to think again if you're going with 840/840 pro.
Samsung Explains The Firmware Bug Causing The Failures of SSD 840/840 Pro
I personally would go with OCZ especially after their whole firmware issue fiasco. They have a new CEO at the helm and stability and reliability is a #1 priority, because if OCZ takes another hit like they did with Vertex 3 it might be game over for them. OCZ is a solid choice right now.

For performance, yes, but remember, their stock is in the toilet, and the company is actually on pretty shaky ground financially right now, so support may become somewhat of an issue within the next couple months/years.
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You might want to think again if you're going with 840/840 pro.
Samsung Explains The Firmware Bug Causing The Failures of SSD 840/840 Pro
I personally would go with OCZ especially after their whole firmware issue fiasco. They have a new CEO at the helm and stability and reliability is a #1 priority, because if OCZ takes another hit like they did with Vertex 3 it might be game over for them. OCZ is a solid choice right now.



So you put up the story, did you bother to actually read it bud?

The 840 sammy drive has nothing wrong with it, prerelease drives had a FW that when you SE'ed the drive it wiped out some mapping areas of the drive that need to be there.
They fixed that and released them, I have had two in R0 for over a week and love them so far.
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Just so you guys are aware. OCZ tested Vector for 6 months, there has been a shift in priority now at OCZ with the reshuffle, many products have gone EOL so we now concentrate efforts on stability and reliability. Speed now comes in 2nd although we still make sure the drives are seriously quick.

Things have changed, Vector is expected to be our most stable drive to date, infact I fully believe the ocz support forum will have few problem posts for Vector, much less than what we saw on the Vtx4 launch and way less than we did for Vtx3.

We have a seriously good firmware team now, when doing our own drives with our own controllers we can spot/debug/fix a FW much faster than we can waiting for SandForce.

So, those saying OCZ reliability is not that good...you need to sit and watch, im confident this one will show things have seriously changed at OCZ.
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Just so you guys are aware. OCZ tested Vector for 6 months, there has been a shift in priority now at OCZ with the reshuffle, many products have gone EOL so we now concentrate efforts on stability and reliability. Speed now comes in 2nd although we still make sure the drives are seriously quick.
Things have changed, Vector is expected to be our most stable drive to date, infact I fully believe the ocz support forum will have few problem posts for Vector, much less than what we saw on the Vtx4 launch and way less than we did for Vtx3.
We have a seriously good firmware team now, when doing our own drives with our own controllers we can spot/debug/fix a FW much faster than we can waiting for SandForce.
So, those saying OCZ reliability is not that good...you need to sit and watch, im confident this one will show things have seriously changed at OCZ.

the OCZ Vector has been in development for 18 month smile.gif

Generically you buy new stuff to get rid of bottlenecks (let's just forget for a second that this is OCN). Speed - wise, the bottleneck is SATA 6Gb/s, and nothing to do other than wait for SATA Express.
So the current bottlenecks in SSD is performance consistency, both speed-wise and latency-wise. I would strongly suggest the Corsair Neutron GTX. It has a enterprise controller (LAMD) and latency and speed consistency are pretty awesome. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6489/playing-with-op
The Sammy SSD is one digit % faster than the Corsair, you will not notice this in any case scenario.

I'm gonna drop my Agility 3 for a couple of Corsair SSDs after Christmas and RAID-0 them.. only then I would probably see an increase in performance.

hope it helps
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Just so you guys are aware. OCZ tested Vector for 6 months, there has been a shift in priority now at OCZ with the reshuffle, many products have gone EOL so we now concentrate efforts on stability and reliability. Speed now comes in 2nd although we still make sure the drives are seriously quick.
Things have changed, Vector is expected to be our most stable drive to date, infact I fully believe the ocz support forum will have few problem posts for Vector, much less than what we saw on the Vtx4 launch and way less than we did for Vtx3.
We have a seriously good firmware team now, when doing our own drives with our own controllers we can spot/debug/fix a FW much faster than we can waiting for SandForce.
So, those saying OCZ reliability is not that good...you need to sit and watch, im confident this one will show things have seriously changed at OCZ.

I can't speak for everyone, but I personally appreciate you guys coming on here to support your product. That said, while it is nice to hear you tested the drives in house for 6 months, and that it's easier to fix bugs that could potentially arise since all of the development was done in house, I personally still need to wait and see what happens in real world scenarios over the next 3-6 months. It's not that I doubt your testing methodologies, it's just that I recognize there is no way you could test EVERY scenario.

Now if everything is still looking good over the next few months, then I can definitely say that the Vector (or whatever comes after) will definitely be one of my top choices for my Haswell build when that drops. It certainly looks promising,
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I'm gonna vote for 840..It's top-notch.
 
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post #18 of 32
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Originally Posted by gAMEtiME View Post

You might want to think again if you're going with 840/840 pro.
Samsung Explains The Firmware Bug Causing The Failures of SSD 840/840 Pro
I personally would go with OCZ especially after their whole firmware issue fiasco. They have a new CEO at the helm and stability and reliability is a #1 priority, because if OCZ takes another hit like they did with Vertex 3 it might be game over for them. OCZ is a solid choice right now.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? The problem you are describing only affects pre-release drives. All retail drives come with an updated firmware.

While the Vectors are nice, I would go with Samsung.
 
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I did a lot of research on this because i am buying one. I pulled the trigger on the vertex 4. It hasn't even arrived yet and came across informationi did not see prior to purchasing. The vertex has some performance mode it runs in if the drive is less than 50 percent full. After that, if you fill it up above 50 percent, performance goes down. I thought about this and decided i didn't like it. The Samsung 840 PRO did better in most of the benchmarks I've seen and does not have the performance drop. So i thought. I could buy the vertex for 200 dollars and use half of the 256gb our get the Samsung and use closer to the full 256gb for 270 dollars. I ordered the Samsung from Amazon bc i have prime, and the Samsung also came with assassins creed3. I'm refusing the shipment of the vertex. If I'm spending this much money on something, i want max speed. Google "vertex 4 performance drop"and look around if you haven't read anything on the issue. All this is coming from someone who has never used an SSD! Just a guy reading a lot of reviews and benchmarks. So take it for what it is worth. Can't wait to try mine on Friday! Besides the performance drop, the vertex looks amazing. Also theperformance drop might just last for a little while and it can try to get stone performance back. either way or the other, it wasa turn off to me frown.gif. I'm petty sure both vertex and the Samsung have a 5 year warranty
Edited by jstaff - 12/12/12 at 11:47am
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I did a lot of research on this because i am buying one. I pulled the trigger on the vertex 4. It hasn't even arrived yet and came across informationi did not see prior to purchasing. The vertex has some performance mode it runs in if the drive is less than 50 percent full. After that, if you fill it up above 50 percent, performance goes down. I thought about this and decided i didn't like it. The Samsung 840 PRO did better in most of the benchmarks I've seen and does not have the performance drop. So i thought. I could buy the vertex for 200 dollars and use half of the 256gb our get the Samsung and use closer to the full 256gb for 270 dollars. I ordered the Samsung from Amazon bc i have prime, and the Samsung also came with assassins creed3. I'm refusing the shipment of the vertex. If I'm spending this much money on something, i want max speed. Google "vertex 4 performance drop"and look around if you haven't read anything on the issue. All this is coming from someone who has never used an SSD! Just a guy reading a lot of reviews and benchmarks. So take it for what it is worth. Can't wait to try mine on Friday! Besides the performance drop, the vertex looks amazing. Also theperformance drop might just last for a little while and it can try to get stone performance back. either way or the other, it wasa turn off to me frown.gif. I'm petty sure both vertex and the Samsung have a 5 year warranty
The performance drop for the Vertex 4 is for only a few minutes. It should be less than 10 iirc. The controller re-maps out the data so write speeds go back up. It isn't even a noticeable drop for those few minutes if you are not writing to the drive at full speed.
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