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I did a lot of research on this because i am buying one. I pulled the trigger on the vertex 4. It hasn't even arrived yet and came across informationi did not see prior to purchasing. The vertex has some performance mode it runs in if the drive is less than 50 percent full. After that, if you fill it up above 50 percent, performance goes down. I thought about this and decided i didn't like it. The Samsung 840 PRO did better in most of the benchmarks I've seen and does not have the performance drop. So i thought. I could buy the vertex for 200 dollars and use half of the 256gb our get the Samsung and use closer to the full 256gb for 270 dollars. I ordered the Samsung from Amazon bc i have prime, and the Samsung also came with assassins creed3. I'm refusing the shipment of the vertex. If I'm spending this much money on something, i want max speed. Google "vertex 4 performance drop"and look around if you haven't read anything on the issue. All this is coming from someone who has never used an SSD! Just a guy reading a lot of reviews and benchmarks. So take it for what it is worth. Can't wait to try mine on Friday! Besides the performance drop, the vertex looks amazing. Also theperformance drop might just last for a little while and it can try to get stone performance back. either way or the other, it wasa turn off to me frown.gif. I'm petty sure both vertex and the Samsung have a 5 year warranty

EVERY drives performance decreases when you fill them with data. According to some benchmarks I found, the Vertex 4 actually outperforms most drives when filled with over 50% data. Heres a perfect example: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/58083-ocz-vector-256gb-ssd-review-11.html
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I would strongly suggest the Corsair Neutron GTX. It has a enterprise controller (LAMD) and latency and speed consistency are pretty awesome. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6489/playing-with-op
The Sammy SSD is one digit % faster than the Corsair, you will not notice this in any case scenario.
I'm gonna drop my Agility 3 for a couple of Corsair SSDs after Christmas and RAID-0 them.. only then I would probably see an increase in performance.
hope it helps

Thanks for the link!

I had originally ruled out the Neutron GTX in favour for the "faster" 840 Pro and Vector. However, looking at the Anandtech link you provided, it shows a very interesting insight as to how these drives perform over time as they become more filled with data.

The Neutron GTX is amazingly consistent and this is something I value more than peak performance or best case performance. And I find the idea of reserving 25% of space to retain consistency rather backwards as far as controller technology goes. I really can't afford to be sectioning off my drives to get the drive to perform as expected.

I hope a firmware update will make the Neutron GTX more competitive with the Samsung and OCZ, but considering the consistency of the performance with default spare area, I consider the Neutron GTX top of my list.

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Edited by Eths - 12/13/12 at 3:57am
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The Neutron GTX is amazingly consistent and this is something I value more than peak performance or best case performance. And I find the idea of reserving 25% of space to retain consistency rather backwards as far as controller technology goes. I really can't afford to be sectioning off my drives to get the drive to perform as expected.

Given the Neutron's controller's enterprise roots, it's not really a surprise that it's more consistent compared to consumer drives Steady state performance is usually more important for enterprise than high peak performance (which is the case for consumer SSDs).
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Just so you guys are aware. OCZ tested Vector for 6 months, there has been a shift in priority now at OCZ with the reshuffle, many products have gone EOL so we now concentrate efforts on stability and reliability. Speed now comes in 2nd although we still make sure the drives are seriously quick.
Things have changed, Vector is expected to be our most stable drive to date, infact I fully believe the ocz support forum will have few problem posts for Vector, much less than what we saw on the Vtx4 launch and way less than we did for Vtx3.
We have a seriously good firmware team now, when doing our own drives with our own controllers we can spot/debug/fix a FW much faster than we can waiting for SandForce.
So, those saying OCZ reliability is not that good...you need to sit and watch, im confident this one will show things have seriously changed at OCZ.

Glad to hear that. I believe Vector should be a turning point for OCZ. I just hope it's not too little too late.
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For performance, yes, but remember, their stock is in the toilet, and the company is actually on pretty shaky ground financially right now, so support may become somewhat of an issue within the next couple months/years.

So? I don't play stocks and I don't care about the stock market. I could care less if OCZ shares were a penny a share. All I care about is rock solid and speedy drives from SSD manufacturers.
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EVERY drives performance decreases when you fill them with data. According to some benchmarks I found, the Vertex 4 actually outperforms most drives when filled with over 50% data. Heres a perfect example: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/58083-ocz-vector-256gb-ssd-review-11.html

Thanks for that link! I've already ordered both the Samsung and ocz, but the ocz is going back. I really wish Samsung was on that chart because that would be a good comparison. From what i have read, The Samsung is still faster all around than the vertex, the pro version at least. Plus i just sold my assassins creed promo code to a friend. I'm only spending 20 dollars more for the Samsung smile.gif.
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So? I don't play stocks and I don't care about the stock market. I could care less if OCZ shares were a penny a share. All I care about is rock solid and speedy drives from SSD manufacturers.

I think they are saying if ocz goes under, your warranty means nothing...and no more firmware updates, etc.
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Ok, so I'm going to highjack this thread for a moment to ask a question some what relevant to the topic at hand. In my next build I'm leaning toward a RAID 0 with two Crucial m4's. I went with the m4 because from what I've read they're one of the most dependable and consistent SSDs on the market, they're also nicely priced but not the fastest. So the question I have now is aside from maybe moving large files is the difference between say an 840 Pro and an m4 noticeable? An extra $40 per drive noticeable? I mean I really don't know which is why I'm asking. I'll be using my PC for mostly gaming, but also some programming, 3D modeling and video editing.
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Thanks for that link! I've already ordered both the Samsung and ocz, but the ocz is going back. I really wish Samsung was on that chart because that would be a good comparison. From what i have read, The Samsung is still faster all around than the vertex, the pro version at least. Plus i just sold my assassins creed promo code to a friend. I'm only spending 20 dollars more for the Samsung smile.gif.

Yeah the 840 Pro beats the Vertex 4 but not the Vector biggrin.gif. In real-world testing where there are both mixed read/writes, the Vector clearly dominates. Take a look at these links below.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ew,3358-7.html


http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage...v20060727-IOps
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Ok, so I'm going to highjack this thread for a moment to ask a question some what relevant to the topic at hand. In my next build I'm leaning toward a RAID 0 with two Crucial m4's. I went with the m4 because from what I've read they're one of the most dependable and consistent SSDs on the market, they're also nicely priced but not the fastest. So the question I have now is aside from maybe moving large files is the difference between say an 840 Pro and an m4 noticeable? An extra $40 per drive noticeable? I mean I really don't know which is why I'm asking. I'll be using my PC for mostly gaming, but also some programming, 3D modeling and video editing.

If you were to buy any of the newer ssd drives out there and put windows on it no one would be able to tell you what ssd you had in it from the user experience. Some bench faster than others but that doesn't mean anything really.

Price is the king now, who is selling their drives at the best price point would be my main distinguishing factor.
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