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Way too many sensitive people here and in the HoN/LoL community, sounds like a lot of you need band-aids....
For you people that are against all the slandering/Name calling, etc. "Words only hurt if you let them."
If you get offended from some words some random guy or girl on the internet said that you have never met, then you needa wake up, there is bigger problems.
L2Mute/Ignore.
/EndRant.

Dude, really? The only reason why people insult and berate others is because words do hurt. Words effect people. It can make your day when someone says good job or it can ruin it when some one insults you. If you really cant control your mouth, I suggest you have no place speaking or being in a forum or game where you are going to negetively effect others for no reason. I will also say that those who are less adept at playing a FREE GAME(not even relevant to anything important in life) have just as much right to play this game as anyone who is pro. I would actually say those that contribute in a friendly way have more of a right to be there than those who spew insults from their mouth.
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Read the entire thread. LOL at all the ppl that actually condone this kind of offensive behavior.

I play this game with my friends, and I can get a little mad over the mic especially when the my friends play poorly or the randoms on our team are reaaally bad, but I won't go out of my way to verbally harass them.

There's a big difference between cocky trashtalk and flat out unsportsmanlike behavior.
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A trash talker is nothing more than that. Playing a game and having fun is where it's at. If they were a decent person and wanted to improve their own game they would help the lesser skilled person become better so they could test their own skills more. Any player that wants to trash talk at any of my LAN parties or on my servers can find a new place to be an internet bully. We have enough of that **** in the day to day grind... we don't need any more imo. If you disagree than so be it, we don't need to game together. Go be "a real man" somewhere else while I continue to respect other's as I would want to be respected in return.
post #124 of 143
I didn't say i support it, try not to put words in my mouth here but my point was that its someone that you DO NOT know, aka a complete stranger that obviously does not know you. (So why take everything to heart, you shouldnt allow words to hurt.)
Why would you allow words from someone who knows nothing about you cause you to "commit suicide" or cry/get offended.
That's for the weak minded that believe everything someone says.
How about if you're on a team and you're giving legit good advice yet one does not want to cooperate and completely destroys the team game and causes you to lose. (No one enjoys losing, atleast i hope not.)
I always try to give good advice, but you cant deny the fact that there are people that ignore any advice and do what they want in a straight TEAM based game.
I only ranted to show theirs sometimes a reason people trash talk. Might not always be legitimate reasons but their is some reason behind some of it.
post #125 of 143
I guess it was the era in which I started to use the internet, but the way I grew up kind of was that it was very common for players to insult(joke) to each others, calling each other lol fags, lol noobs, racist slurs, and other somewhat creative sarcastic remarks to each other.

I grew up where the internet was not serious business, where it was separate from real life in a way and it wasnt like it seems today where people take things so seriously. Maybe its because of facebook? now people see the internet as srs business it seems.

I dont think words hurt people unless you let it get to you, you laugh at their sarcastic remark say k noob and move on, I guess I prefer the older way it felt like the wild west or something, the internet a place with no rules and no authority and could just say and do whatever.

edit: well maybe not do whatever, cause it was still a bad thing to troll gameplay wise.
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post #126 of 143
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I didn't say i support it, try not to put words in my mouth here but my point was that its someone that you DO NOT know, aka a complete stranger that obviously does not know you. (So why take everything to heart, you shouldnt allow words to hurt.)
Why would you allow words from someone who knows nothing about you cause you to "commit suicide" or cry/get offended.
That's for the weak minded that believe everything someone says.
How about if you're on a team and you're giving legit good advice yet one does not want to cooperate and completely destroys the team game and causes you to lose. (No one enjoys losing, atleast i hope not.)
I always try to give good advice, but you cant deny the fact that there are people that ignore any advice and do what they want in a straight TEAM based game.
I only ranted to show theirs sometimes a reason people trash talk. Might not always be legitimate reasons but their is some reason behind some of it.

I don't think anyone is making the case that giving non-sugarcoated advice about play style should be a ban-able offense. There is an enormous difference between, "Hey stop screwing around and get some wards up on the map," and "Why did you even queue you pathetic, fat, escaped abortion?!" Attacking someone else because of inabilities to manage your anger and frustration is not allowed according to Riot, and rightfully so. Not everyone is interested in every stray thought that pops into your head. (When I say "you" or "your" I am not directly referring to you, but a generic "you.")

As with any community, the game community is evolving over time. One of the ways it is changing is in its tolerance of flaming; especially the pro scene. Players are going to have to start to regrow some of that natural filter that exists between their brains and their mouths, thankfully.
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I don't think anyone is making the case that giving non-sugarcoated advice about play style should be a ban-able offense. There is an enormous difference between, "Hey stop screwing around and get some wards up on the map," and "Why did you even queue you pathetic, fat, escaped abortion?!" Attacking someone else because of inabilities to manage your anger and frustration is not allowed according to Riot, and rightfully so. Not everyone is interested in every stray thought that pops into your head. (When I say "you" or "your" I am not directly referring to you, but a generic "you.")
As with any community, the game community is evolving over time. One of the ways it is changing is in its tolerance of flaming; especially the pro scene. Players are going to have to start to regrow some of that natural filter that exists between their brains and their mouths, thankfully.
I think you mean eunuchs. Unless, of course, you have a special nickname for unicorns.
This just HAS to be sarcasm. I refuse to believe anyone can be this completely ridiculous.

^ Soo true.
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I don't think anyone is making the case that giving non-sugarcoated advice about play style should be a ban-able offense. There is an enormous difference between, "Hey stop screwing around and get some wards up on the map," and "Why did you even queue you pathetic, fat, escaped abortion?!" Attacking someone else because of inabilities to manage your anger and frustration is not allowed according to Riot, and rightfully so. Not everyone is interested in every stray thought that pops into your head. (When I say "you" or "your" I am not directly referring to you, but a generic "you.")
As with any community, the game community is evolving over time. One of the ways it is changing is in its tolerance of flaming; especially the pro scene. Players are going to have to start to regrow some of that natural filter that exists between their brains and their mouths, thankfully.
I think you mean eunuchs. Unless, of course, you have a special nickname for unicorns.
This just HAS to be sarcasm. I refuse to believe anyone can be this completely ridiculous.

True that. There is a line between "firing up the mates" and hateful abuse.

With the explosive growth of twitch and e-sports in general it's good to see a solid foundation being laid.
 
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Completely a different subject, but for those saying that bullying by people who amount to being little more than strangers leading to depression, and possibly suicide... how you think it does or does not make sense does NOT matter. The facts are that over the past decade, bullying (including cyberbullying) has led to a massinve increase in teen depression and suicides. You'd think with the publicity these things have garnered over the past few years people would be more aware.

Instead what we get is, "Oh, that's stupid! Man up, it's just a game! etc etc etc...." People will defend it, but i wonder how old the people making these ignorant comments are? All I see in situations like that is ignorance. People just aren't aware that things that may not make sense to you, and a lot of this is due to age and lack of comprehensive reasoning and learned life lessons. Reasoning isn't all logic, it's how things actually happen. Facts stand that bullying and verbal harassment in all it's forms effects people. You see it here almost daily in the threads where people get heated over simple things. Just because you claim to be able to overlook any and all verbal abuse online, doesn't mean others can, and that doesn't make them 'weak'... which is a completely watered down and innapropriate term in this case.

This whole argument over one 100% acknowledged d-bag who got canned from his favorite game for... wait for it... being a d-bag. What did he, or anyone else, expect?
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Good! One of the major reasons I never got into LoL was because the majority of people playing it were complete bastards.

We all start at the bottom, okay? I've never played before, that's not a valid excuse for abusing me.
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