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Anonymity brings out the worst in people.
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I'm pretty critical, belligerent, and frequently foul mouthed in a lot of games I play, but if it's a game/server I can be banned from, I can control myself.

And I'm always honest. I never accuse people of being something they aren't, nor do criticize anything that is unrelated to how they are playing the game. I simply have little patience for people who cannot pull their weight or who repeatedly make stupid mistakes.
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Anonymity brings out the worst in people.

I'm worst to people who know exactly who I am. No one else has any reason to take me seriously.

Also, very few high level professional players are remotely anonymous.
Edited by Blameless - 12/5/12 at 6:17am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blameless View Post

I'm pretty critical, belligerent, and frequently foul mouthed in a lot of games I play, but if it's a game/server I can be banned from, I can control myself.

And I'm always honest. I never accuse people of being something they aren't, nor do criticize anything that is unrelated to how they are playing the game. I simply have little patience for people who cannot pull their weight or who repeatedly make stupid mistakes.
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Anonymity brings out the worst in people.

I'm worst to people who know exactly who I am. No one else has any reason to take me seriously.

Also, very few high level professional players are remotely anonymous.

You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them. You were to bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness.
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Yeah, that's the thing about prophecy...so easily foiled by George Lucas' cliché plots lines and the need for prequels to lead into the existing story.
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What do you get when you put together a bunch of cry babies and job-justifying moderators?

This.

You can't make people be nice to eachother. For every flame war that breaks out, would they prefer the person just quit the match? Quietly continue playing? (That's not about to happen.)
They ought to just leave it alone; they're going to kill the social aspect of their game by getting so needlessly involved in an iron-fist way.
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I think the best solution would be to remove in game communication completely, or at least have very accessible squelching controls.
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It's a fairly simple concept, if you are in the public eye and make money off a game don't talk trash and risk your account... Also, to those saying it's justified to rage at people because they may lose the game for them... join a team or stop moaning.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mookster View Post

You can't make people be nice to eachother. For every flame war that breaks out, would they prefer the person just quit the match? Quietly continue playing? (That's not about to happen.)
They ought to just leave it alone; they're going to kill the social aspect of their game by getting so needlessly involved in an iron-fist way.

The type of verbal abuse people are subjected to while playing games like LoL is far more harmful to the game as a whole than the banning of a few players here and there. Bottom line is this, Riot Games, like any other company, is around to make money, and in order to make money they need to make their game as accessible as possible, and promote as positive (as possible) of a game-play environment to encourage people to continue playing. The attitudes of some of these players is completely counter productive to increasing (and maintaining) the player base. I am glad Riot came down hard on this kid. Hopefully it will serve as a warning to others.
Edited by tubnotub1 - 12/5/12 at 6:38am
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Also, to those saying it's justified to rage at people because they may lose the game for them... join a team

I only rage at teammates, because they are the only ones who can fail me. No one else, not the enemy team, or neutrals, has any obligation to assist me in any fashion.

If you aren't on my team, there is no reason for us to communicate at all, at any point, during the game.
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Surely that is the point?If he is so "pro" shouldn't he act like one and not a 12 year old kid?

Heh... Pro just means they play for money, not that they have to act professionally. The e-sport is still young and we are already starting to see teams drop off the face of the earth due to bad behavior. DotA 2 had a team called Moscow 5 that recently disbanded, they were seeded high enough in a tournament that they could lose their next few matches and still be in position to win the prize money. They decided to not even show up to the matches and take the forfeit, there by labeling them as scumbags to the rest of the DotA community. They lost their sponsorship and broke up shortly after.


EDIT: Just to shed a little more insight, I've been playing MOBAs for over 10 years (Started back in AOS for reign of chaos) as well as many other hero centered team maps. While I agree that over the top raging has no place in a team based game that is also the nature of the MOBA genre. There is a lot more stress that goes into the game (Especially for example a game like DotA where unlike it's counterpart LoL games can turn around at any moment no matter the odds with one successful teamfight. note: I am NOT bashing LoL or any other MOBA, they all have their pros and cons, just observing that you see more turn around in DotA than you do in LoL when it isn't a close game.) rather than say an FPS where you have rounds due to it being one long hour(ish) long game.

That being said a lot of what has increased the trash talking from DotA 2 has been the advent of centralized servers and a matchmaking queue, when you're in a pug/pub/whatever (pick up group/public game) you are with randoms that may or may not have your same skill level. Most of the time there are one or two that have a lower skill level which the matchmaking system adds to your team to reduce your overall skill level, these random players are the ones that more often than not become the target of abuse in these games. There are also times when this match making system will put players that do not speak english on your team just because they queued on the US servers, this also incites rage due to the fact that it is a team game where communication is very very important. I think that as time goes on we will see improvements to the match making system, I know that DotA 2 has already implemented Low Priority queue which is a separate queue (correct me if I am wrong, it may have changed to being the same queue?) which punishes reported players and people who leave games.

I'm not saying that the matchmaking system alone is the cause of all of the harassment issues that MOBAs face however I do know that trolling/harrassment/etc. was lower during the WC3 era of MOBAs, it was of course still present and I think we are seeing it more now due to the substantial increase of players since that time. There may only be one jerk every 100 players but when you have millions of players, you have hundreds of thousands of jerks.

Long story short, unfortunately you will need to find a team of friends and have thick skin to enjoy these games and take pride when you stomp that other team talking ****.
Edited by Crim427 - 12/5/12 at 6:53am
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