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Okay I have read countless post in this forum. I have a basic understanding of what to do and how just not sure which parts to go with. I know I want to cool CPU-GPU for sure but the CPU only for now. MY SYESTEM: Mobo Gigabyte up-7 CPU i7 3770k Gpu hd7970 lighting. CASE Thermaltake CHASER Mk-2 it is water cooling ready from what I can see.Budget for this is 500.00 us dollars to start But I would like to stay around 400.00. I have a dead space behind my power supply of about 4.5inches long and as wide as the case maybe a cylinder can go here I really like those . I would mount a 320 rad in the top with to corsair quiet sp120s pushing out.The pump I am lost on thinking of the MCP35X but have no idea . The cpu block I would in perfer to match a gpu block later but may not be possible as long as its close. For the hose not sure what size but would want orange hose with clear liquid flowing through. But what kind of fittings to use what is the safest most secure the case does go on road trips on ocassions. So if any more information is needed let me know I will be on here most of the day.
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The XSPC Raystorm is a solid choice for CPU block. XSPC also makes some GPU blocks so you could probably find either a full cover to match it, but if not there is the Raystorm Universal GPU block that would match as well. Orange tubing is somewhat hard to find, or at least it was when I built my orange loop almost two years ago. I bought about 20' from specialtech in case I ever needed more down the road. For fittings, its mostly personal preference. You can get compression fittings that look really nice and work great, but it'll cost a bit more. Barbs with clamps work just as well but lack the aesthetics of compressions, at least in my opinion. If you go with barbs, you can either get the same size barbs as the tube ID and use barb clamps, or you can get barbs that are just a bit larger than the tube ID, stretch the tube over the barbs and not worry about clamps. 7/16"ID tube over 1/2" barbs is the most common use of clampless barbs. I've heard good things about the MCP35X, but I've always been more of a fan of the MCP655 personally. It's a little cheaper, very reliable, and quieter(at least in my experience in d5 vs ddc). With a $400 budget, you shouldn't have any trouble setting up a good CPU loop
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The XSPC Raystorm is a solid choice for CPU block. XSPC also makes some GPU blocks so you could probably find either a full cover to match it, but if not there is the Raystorm Universal GPU block that would match as well. Orange tubing is somewhat hard to find, or at least it was when I built my orange loop almost two years ago. I bought about 20' from specialtech in case I ever needed more down the road. For fittings, its mostly personal preference. You can get compression fittings that look really nice and work great, but it'll cost a bit more. Barbs with clamps work just as well but lack the aesthetics of compressions, at least in my opinion. If you go with barbs, you can either get the same size barbs as the tube ID and use barb clamps, or you can get barbs that are just a bit larger than the tube ID, stretch the tube over the barbs and not worry about clamps. 7/16"ID tube over 1/2" barbs is the most common use of clampless barbs. I've heard good things about the MCP35X, but I've always been more of a fan of the MCP655 personally. It's a little cheaper, very reliable, and quieter(at least in my experience in d5 vs ddc). With a $400 budget, you shouldn't have any trouble setting up a good CPU loop
Thanks I noticed your in cincinnati also I am in Milford I am new to the area but so far its been good. I am going to Microcenter today and see if they have anything at all. I am really lost on what to buy it is kinda daunting the first time. I will go with the Mcp655 that you suggested since you have to know more than me lol. Is that MCP655 able to push enough water through CPU-GPU ? I would suspect it is.
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Thanks I noticed your in cincinnati also I am in Milford I am new to the area but so far its been good. I am going to Microcenter today and see if they have anything at all. I am really lost on what to buy it is kinda daunting the first time. I will go with the Mcp655 that you suggested since you have to know more than me lol. Is that MCP655 able to push enough water through CPU-GPU ? I would suspect it is.
I wouldn't get your hopes up finding much WC gear at Microcenter. They do carry the Raystorm CPU block and some bitspower fittings, but you can find everything cheaper online.You might get lucky and find a few things cheaper or open box items, but I've always used performance-pcs and sidewinder computers to order all my gear. The nice thing about sidewinder is that it's just right over in Indiana so your order normally gets here is a day or two via UPS ground. The pump is more than capable of handling that loop. I currently have mine pushing through CPU, 2 GPU, a 480mm rad, and 240mm rad. I agree the first time is a little overwhelming at first, but the community here on OCN is very helpful and knowledgeable. Nice to see another local here on OCN. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or run into any problems.
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Thanks I noticed your in cincinnati also I am in Milford I am new to the area but so far its been good. I am going to Microcenter today and see if they have anything at all. I am really lost on what to buy it is kinda daunting the first time. I will go with the Mcp655 that you suggested since you have to know more than me lol. Is that MCP655 able to push enough water through CPU-GPU ? I would suspect it is.
I wouldn't get your hopes up finding much WC gear at Microcenter. They do carry the Raystorm CPU block and some bitspower fittings, but you can find everything cheaper online.You might get lucky and find a few things cheaper or open box items, but I've always used performance-pcs and sidewinder computers to order all my gear. The nice thing about sidewinder is that it's just right over in Indiana so your order normally gets here is a day or two via UPS ground. The pump is more than capable of handling that loop. I currently have mine pushing through CPU, 2 GPU, a 480mm rad, and 240mm rad. I agree the first time is a little overwhelming at first, but the community here on OCN is very helpful and knowledgeable. Nice to see another local here on OCN. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or run into any problems.
I figured that I thought if I could feel and see some stuff I could get some idea of the quality and size thats all..
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Sounds good. A few other words of advice. Bitspower, Koolance, EK, Heatkiller, XSPC, Aplhacool all make quality parts. Avoid anything that is EK Nickle plated. There was a whole big fiasco a while back about the nickle plating flaking off and EK handled it very poorly. They have since changed the plating process but I still wouldn't trust it. Their copper blocks have never had any problems, which is what all three of my blocks are. If you want to use colored coolant, look into Mayhems Dyes, otherwise I'd stick with distilled water and some sort of biocide, either a fluid additive or a silver kill coil. Once you get everything, it's a good idea to put everything together outside the case for a leak test. That way if there is a leak you don't have to worry about components getting wet. Plus a lot of times you have limited space in the case and it's a pain in the butt trying to move around in there.
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Sounds good. A few other words of advice. Bitspower, Koolance, EK, Heatkiller, XSPC, Aplhacool all make quality parts. Avoid anything that is EK Nickle plated. There was a whole big fiasco a while back about the nickle plating flaking off and EK handled it very poorly. They have since changed the plating process but I still wouldn't trust it. Their copper blocks have never had any problems, which is what all three of my blocks are. If you want to use colored coolant, look into Mayhems Dyes, otherwise I'd stick with distilled water and some sort of biocide, either a fluid additive or a silver kill coil. Once you get everything, it's a good idea to put everything together outside the case for a leak test. That way if there is a leak you don't have to worry about components getting wet. Plus a lot of times you have limited space in the case and it's a pain in the butt trying to move around in there.
Thanks alot really I have the money ready to buy its just so dam overwhelming you have helped out a tonal readyif ya get bored peice some parts together and I will just buy them lol. I really see the reason people go with the all in ones now. This is what I got so far MCP 655 RETAIL 77.99 XPSC RAYSTORM CPU BLOCK 94.99 i need help figuring out RES-RAD,COMPRESSION FITTINGS THAT ARE ORANGE IF THEY EXIST. My theme is orange black blue like TRON
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Very cool theme! The only orange fittings that I know of are Monsoon. Just make sure you match up the correct ID and OD fittings with your tubing. For res, you can't go wrong with a Bitspower tube res. You could also get a 5.25" bay res than the pump installs into. XSPC, EK, and Koolance make some really nice bay reservoirs that incorporate a pump. Or there are aftermarket tops that incorporate the pump with a tube res. Rad, 240mm would be good for CPU only, but if you plan on cooling the gpu in the future I would go with at least 360mm. That can be a single 240 plus another 120 added later, or just a single 360, really doesn't make much of a difference. The XSPC EX series rads are a great price to performance ratio.
Just a few ideas
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/iast175mure.html tube res
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/xsd5dubayreb.html bay res that incorporates pump
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/xsexdu12ra.html ex240 rad
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_346_1026_1028&products_id=33968 these come in different sizes as well
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Very cool theme! The only orange fittings that I know of are Monsoon. Just make sure you match up the correct ID and OD fittings with your tubing. For res, you can't go wrong with a Bitspower tube res. You could also get a 5.25" bay res than the pump installs into. XSPC, EK, and Koolance make some really nice bay reservoirs that incorporate a pump. Or there are aftermarket tops that incorporate the pump with a tube res. Rad, 240mm would be good for CPU only, but if you plan on cooling the gpu in the future I would go with at least 360mm. That can be a single 240 plus another 120 added later, or just a single 360, really doesn't make much of a difference. The XSPC EX series rads are a great price to performance ratio.
Just a few ideas
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/iast175mure.html tube res
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/xsd5dubayreb.html bay res that incorporates pump
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/xsexdu12ra.html ex240 rad
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_346_1026_1028&products_id=33968 these come in different sizes as well
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swma5dubayre1.html What do you think about going this route is this pump quiet and would it be able to push through 2 blocks and a 360 rad? I like the concept but not sure of function.
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http://koolance.com/rp-1200-reservoir-and-pump I also loved this solution what do you think sorry for all of the questions its just hard putting all of this together..
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