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Most people who say this review is biased are either justifying their purchases or don't know what they are talking about ...
1- Sleeping Dogs has always been a garbage for Nvidia cards, and it is an AMD Gaming Evolved title ..
2- Skyrim is no longer an Nvidia favored game since drivers 12.8...
3- MOH : Warfighter is an AMD Gaming Evolved game.
4- The HD7950 absolutely spanked the GTX 660 Ti in Hitman Absolution in terms of fps...

AMD guys want Crysis 1, Metro2033 & DiRT Showdown benchmark to be happy with an unbiased review rolleyes.gif ...
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post #12 of 745
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Bullcrap, you have to consider much more than just the performance.
What is the price? Do you want to overclock?
If the 7950 is much cheaper (currently cheapest 7950 is @ 280$) and can be overclocked to 1.1 - 1.2 GHz quite easily, I would go for the 7950.
The cheapest to date 660ti is 290$.
In this situation, if you don't want to overclock, I would get the 660ti. If you do want then 7950 hands down.
Prices took from a canadian bot (shopbot.ca)

Whoa... what is with the attack?
Quote:
...if this is consistent between AMD and Nvidia it may suggest why I picked Nvidia cards more often than AMD cards in real practice.
This is just my opinion on my purchasing decisions I have made. Don't get so defensive!
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Sorry
I just read that review and it picked every single game that is going for the GTX600 series strengths and none of it's weaknesses. Every, single, game they decided to test has always and is well known, to run crap on the 7000 series GPU.
That review was biased and unfair to be honest.

You might be right, but these are the big titles that people are playing right now.

They are clearly missing BF3 but other than that it doesnt look that weird to me.

 

I was really surprised with the results from the frame times. AMD seems to have huge spikes that are noticeably higher than the green team.

I agree with the surprise from the conclusion as well, I expected all these big advancements from AMD and their partnerships to be more noticeable.

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post #14 of 745
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Most people who say this review is biased are either justifying their purchases or don't know what they are talking about ...
1- Sleeping Dogs has always been a garbage for Nvidia cards, and it is an AMD Gaming Evolved title ..
2- Skyrim is no longer an Nvidia favored game since drivers 12.8...
3- MOH : Warfighter is an AMD Gaming Evolved game.
4- The HD7950 absolutely spanked the GTX 660 Ti in Hitman Absolution in terms of fps...
AMD guys want Crysis 1, Metro2033 & DiRT Showdown benchmark to be happy with an unbiased review rolleyes.gif ...

Trust me when I say, I would have gone with the 7950 even after looking at this review. This is just a single review though, how many other reviews have we seen that put the 7950 ahead of the 660 ti, especially when oc'd? Something must be funky with their testing imo, not just because the 660 ti won in many cases, but because of how many "problems" they had with the amd card. I haven't had one problem with my 7950 in the 3 months i've owned it.
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Whoa... what is with the attack?
This is just my opinion on my purchasing decisions I have made. Don't get so defensive!

Sorry, I confess I've reacted far too much. The reason I think this review is biased is because it takes nvidia where it is good at in every aspect not only due to the game choice. AMD is favorable (some models are voltage locked) to overclocking while Nvidia is currently against it (if not totally against). With an overclocking comparison, which is missing in this review, it brings a whole new aspect to the decision of buying a 660ti over a 7950 and vice versa.
7950 OCed performance can match a 680 & a 7970 if not outmatch them. I don't have review under hand to prove this but I did overclock a 7950 and I gained 30% performance by overclocking it and I had a poor clocker.
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post #16 of 745
Glad I'm not the only one who thought there's something fishy with that review.

I never thought The Tech Report to be biased but this review gave me reason to doubt.
Edited by rpsgc - 12/5/12 at 8:41am
    
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There's definitely a need for them to re-test and reinstall their drivers. Beta 8 was more of a step backwards btw. Anyways to the point, the 7950 is showing more latency than crossfire systems. Do you think that's an issue? If you don't you may be biased lol?
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Trust me when I say, I would have gone with the 7950 even after looking at this review. This is just a single review though, how many other reviews have we seen that put the 7950 ahead of the 660 ti, especially when oc'd? Something must be funky with their testing imo, not just because the 660 ti won in many cases, but because of how many "problems" they had with the amd card. I haven't had one problem with my 7950 in the 3 months i've owned it.

Other websites use other methods of testing, Tech Report use another method which is framerate latency, other websites don't.
If you don't look at the framerate latencies you will come with a totally different conclusion as they trade blows at stock in average fps (in shader intensive games).

Edit : They might need to re-test again for confirmation with slightly older drivers as tsm106 said, but I don't think they deliberately skewed the results against AMD. Tech Report is an old and a well known site, they won't easily destroy their reputation just because they have personal problems with AMD.
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There's definitely a need for them to re-test and reinstall their drivers. Beta 8 was more of a step backwards btw. Anyways to the point, the 7950 is showing more latency than crossfire systems. Do you think that's an issue? If you don't you may be biased lol?

Interesting, I stayed on Beta 6 so I had no idea about the issues of 7 or 8.
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Sorry, I confess I've reacted far too much. The reason I think this review is biased is because it takes nvidia where it is good at in every aspect not only due to the game choice. AMD is favorable (some models are voltage locked) to overclocking while Nvidia is currently against it (if not totally against). With an overclocking comparison, which is missing in this review, it brings a whole new aspect to the decision of buying a 660ti over a 7950 and vice versa.
7950 OCed performance can match a 680 & a 7970 if not outmatch them. I don't have review under hand to prove this but I did overclock a 7950 and I gained 30% performance by overclocking it and I had a poor clocker.

No problem thumb.gif
I had never seen that latency comparison before, and I thought it was an interesting way to look at cards performance.
Ya, the HD7950 has far more reasons to purchase over the 660ti when compared as a whole.

As far as overclocking I wonder if the latency would improve once overclocked? If latency of frames does play a larger role than just eye candy for graphs it might influence my purchase as performance over 60 FPS is less useful to me, although seeing +60 frames is nice. The cards performance has to be differentiated in some way if both cards run at 60 FPS on a 60Hz monitor.
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