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Originally Posted by sherlock View Post

Proof? You mean you don't see 1200/1500+ 7950s??? They are all over people's sig and hwbot.
Assuming 1/1 OC scaling(
1200mhz 7950 is a 26% OC over the Vapor-X clock listed in this review
with a Kepler you will be lucky to get a 1300mhz OC due to voltage lock:
1300mhz 660Ti is only 17% OC over the AMP Edition 660Ti's listed 1111mhz, and counting Kepler Boost(Kepler card's actual boost clock is actually 50-110mhz faster than the boost clock listed in product spec, this is discussed in the GTX 670 OC topic), the percentage would be even smaller.
So according to this review done at stock both cards are even, but after Overclock the 7950 would come out ahead due the extra 9% OC.
So you are comparing the OC % to a overclocked card ? K. Still, with voltage locked and all of these others disadvantages, Kepler some how is so close/ matching / beating the 7970/50. Interesting eh.
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post #122 of 745
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Originally Posted by raghu78 View Post

I believe there is some problem which needs to be found out. many AMD users have had excellent results with 12.11 betas. the MOH Warfighter performance figures are completely opposite to what other websites are showing. HD 7950 boost is 30% or more faster than GTX 660 Ti. hardocp has the GTX 660 Ti at Ultra 2x MSAA matching the HD 7950 boost at Ultra 4x MSAA.
http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page8.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/medal_of_honor_warfighter_graphics_vga_performance_review,6.html
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/11/07/medal_honor_warfighter_gameplay_performance_review/4
Skyrim too is significantly faster on HD 7950 boost with other reviews
http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page9.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7950_X2_Boost/22.html
and most important is the the measuring of frametime using fraps. there is no clear explanation of the algorithm fraps uses to measure it. can its scientific correctness be proven. sites like hardocp have commented that techreport's frametime measurement is not reflective of performance perceived by user as they don't measure frames at the monitor.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1039390961&postcount=75

Erm.. did you quote the wrong person?
post #123 of 745
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Originally Posted by sherlock View Post

Proof? You mean you don't see 1200/1500+ 7950s??? They are all over people's sig and hwbot.
Assuming 1/1 OC scaling(
1200mhz 7950 is a 26% OC over the Vapor-X clock listed 950 mhz in this review
with a Kepler you will be lucky to get a 1300mhz OC due to voltage lock:
1300mhz 660Ti is only 17% OC over the AMP Edition 660Ti's listed 1111mhz, and counting Kepler Boost(Kepler card's actual boost clock is actually 50-110mhz faster than the boost clock listed in product spec, this is discussed in the GTX 670 OC topic), the percentage would be even smaller.
So according to this review done at stock both cards are even, but after Overclock the 7950 would come out ahead due the extra 9% OC.
This is not counting that Tahiti is faster clock per clock, thus the same % OC benefit Tahiti more.

I asked for proof that a OC max 7950 will destroy a OC max 660ti. Not slightly beat, he said destroyed. Big difference.

I would love to see some one post max clocks for a 7950 vs max clocks for a 660ti.
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post #124 of 745
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So you are comparing the OC % to a overclocked card ? K. Still, with voltage locked and all of these others disadvantages, Kepler some how is so close/ matching / beating the 7970/50. Interesting eh.

Sure you want to compare OC% to a not overclocked card?

First that is not possible since all Kepler are factory OCed by Nividia with the dynamic overclock feature, second the edge for AMD is larger there:


a reference 7950 is 800mhz, a reference 660Ti/670 is 915mhz with a 1K+ boost clock(a 9% factory OC most if not all benchmarks just sweep under the rug when running against ref 7950/70 with no factory OC).

so a 1200 mhz 7950 a 50% OC from the 800mhz.

a 1300mhz 660Ti is a 30 % OC from the 1K+ boost clock

The OC percentage Gap is 20% instead of 9%.
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post #125 of 745
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I asked for proof that a OC max 7950 will destroy a OC max 660ti. Not slightly beat, he said destroyed. Big difference. I would love to see some one post max clocks for a 7950 vs max clocks for a 660ti.

ask bruennis . his Gigabyte HD 7950 (1280 Mhz ) beat his GTX 680 Lightning (1372 Mhz). thumb.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1330953/7950-cf-vs-680-single-card/10#post_18682076
http://www.overclock.net/t/1323188/ocuk-7950-crossfire-vs-680-sli-at-5760-1080-eyefinity-surround/40#post_18584418
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post #126 of 745
Everyone is overlooking the elephant in the room here. Like it or not at stock (cant say for OCed yet) the 660ti beats the 7950 in SOME games and loses in others.

Ok so the fact a GPU with only 192it bus can compete with a GPU that has 384 bit bus is simply amazing, and a testament to Nvidias GPU making skills. So my question is why all the hate? It takes AMD literally double the bus to equal/beat Nvidias 660ti.

Not to mention the 7870 has still a larger bus than a 660ti but no doubt loses to it. I know its different architecture, but that is still amazing.

Also, still waiting on that proof a max OC 7950 will DESTROY a max OC 660ti......


LOLOLOLOLOL, you linked me a post that says nothing, has no proof of anything except a guy saying ya it beats it. You believe everything everyone says?
Edited by Dimaggio1103 - 12/5/12 at 7:22pm
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post #127 of 745
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Originally Posted by Dimaggio1103 View Post

Everyone is overlooking the elephant in the room here. Like it or not at stock (cant say for OCed yet) the 660ti beats the 7950 in SOME games and loses in others.
Ok so the fact a GPU with only 192it bus can compete with a GPU that has 384 bit bus is simply amazing, and a testament to Nvidias GPU making skills. So my question is why all the hate? It takes AMD literally double the bus to equal/beat Nvidias 660ti.
Not to mention the 7870 has still a larger bus than a 660ti but no doubt loses to it. I know its different architecture, but that is still amazing.
Also, still waiting on that proof a max OC 7950 will DESTROY a max OC 660ti......

Maybe an oc 7950 vs 680 oc?

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/club_3d_7950_royal_king_review/5 thumb.gif
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this guy is funny.

didn't you see the card he owns. defending it to his last breath. if he wants a matchup he should take on bruennis Gigabyte HD 7950. that contest would be even more funny. thumb.gif
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Not sure if serious? The 7950 they used is just a standard boost card. Yet you call it one of the fastest out of the box? Hyperbole much? This thread is comedy gold.
Hmm... why would we test stuff on a clock for clock basis... lol what kind of a question is that?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1322119/12-11-vs-310-33

rolleyes.gif Now you look like an idiot, because its not a "standard boost". You're right, this thread IS comedy gold. And clock for clock basis is irrelevant when it comes to different architecture, only thing that matters is stock and max overclock vs max overclock for each card
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Maybe an oc 7950 vs 680 oc?
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/club_3d_7950_royal_king_review/5 thumb.gif

A royal king edition card........Quite different than a regular 7950.
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didn't you see the card he owns. defending it to his last breath. if he wants a matchup he should take on bruennis Gigabyte HD 7950. that contest would be even more funny. thumb.gif

I just dont like misinformation. Not defending it to the death, maybe you should check my profile I am constantly fighting for AMD and recommending their GPU's

I just thought its funny how when a article say anything wrong with peoples hardware they call it B.S.

As I have said had you actually read the thread 7950 is still slightly the better IMO. I have said this many times over, the only thing I was defending on the 660ti is that it does not get destroyed at stock, or even max OC of each card as far as ive seen.
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