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Originally Posted by Dimaggio1103 View Post

I just dont like misinformation. Not defending it to the death, maybe you should check my profile I am constantly fighting for AMD and recommending their GPU's. I just thought its funny how when a article say anything wrong with peoples hardware they call it B.S.
As I have said had you actually read the thread 7950 is still slightly the better IMO. I have said this many times over, the only thing I was defending on the 660ti is that it does not get destroyed at stock, or even max OC of each card as far as ive seen.

the HD 7950 boost is on par with GTX 670 and clearly faster than GTX 660 Ti. if you want to know what happens to a GTX 660 Ti even at 1.3 Ghz against a HD 7950(1.2 Ghz) you have to just ask bruennis to go for a faceoff against any GTX 660 Ti on OCN. he will gladly oblige biggrin.gif
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post #132 of 745
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I believe there is some problem which needs to be found out. many AMD users have had excellent results with 12.11 betas. the MOH Warfighter performance figures are completely opposite to what other websites are showing. HD 7950 boost is 30% or more faster than GTX 660 Ti. hardocp has the GTX 660 Ti at Ultra 2x MSAA matching the HD 7950 boost at Ultra 4x MSAA.
http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page8.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/medal_of_honor_warfighter_graphics_vga_performance_review,6.html
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/11/07/medal_honor_warfighter_gameplay_performance_review/4
Skyrim too is significantly faster on HD 7950 boost with other reviews
http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page9.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7950_X2_Boost/22.html
and most important is the the measuring of frametime using fraps. there is no clear explanation of the algorithm fraps uses to measure it. can its scientific correctness be proven. sites like hardocp have commented that techreport's frametime measurement is not reflective of performance perceived by user as they don't measure frames at the monitor.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1039390961&postcount=75

I didn't see any of those links showing the 7950 being 30% or more faster. At most it was 20-25% and most of them seemed to show it as about 10%. Meanwhile Techpowerup's review shows the 7950 at most 10% faster. Everyone needs to stop spouting nonsense about how much of an advantage the 12.11 drivers brought. They improved performance about 10%, which is damn good, but you are doing everyone a disservice by claiming that the 7950 is destroying the 660 Ti or competing with the 670.
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A royal king edition card........Quite different than a regular 7950.

Whats the difference from a custom 7950 except the red pcb? rolleyes.gif
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I didn't see any of those links showing the 7950 being 30% or more faster. At most it was 20-25% and most of them seemed to show it as about 10%. Meanwhile Techpowerup's review shows the 7950 at most 10% faster. Everyone needs to stop spouting nonsense about how much of an advantage the 12.11 drivers brought. They improved performance about 10%, which is damn good, but you are doing everyone a disservice by claiming that the 7950 is destroying the 660 Ti or competing with the 670.

go see MOH Warfighter 2560 x 1600 Ultra 4x MSAA in those reviews.

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page12.html

" At 1920x1200 the GeForce GTX 670 is 12% faster than the Radeon HD 7950 and just 2% faster than the 7950 Boost. However the GTX 670 is 27% more expensive than both cards, so whichever way you slice it the Radeon HD 7950 Boost is the better proposition and things just get worse for the GTX 670 as the resolution is increased."

"at 1920x1200, the GeForce GTX 680 was just ~1% faster than the Radeon HD 7970, while it trailed the 7970 GHz Edition by a 7% margin. This doesn’t change at 2560x1600, where the GeForce GTX 680 is 2% slower than the Radeon HD 7970 and 11% slower than the 7970 GHz Edition, making the 7970 the obvious choice."

At 1080p GTX 670 marginally ahead while at 1440p its actually the HD 7950 boost which is ahead. if you still want to be in denial that HD 7950 boost does not match GTX 670 go ahead.
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TechReport is far from bias. The reason the 7950 is doing soo bad is because AMD drivers for windows 8 are lagging very far behind Nvidias.
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I didn't see any of those links showing the 7950 being 30% or more faster. At most it was 20-25% and most of them seemed to show it as about 10%. Meanwhile Techpowerup's review shows the 7950 at most 10% faster. Everyone needs to stop spouting nonsense about how much of an advantage the 12.11 drivers brought. They improved performance about 10%, which is damn good, but you are doing everyone a disservice by claiming that the 7950 is destroying the 660 Ti or competing with the 670.

The 7950 boost is faster than the 660TI by 13% at 1080p according to TPU's summary. No, rather the 660TI is 13% slower than the 7950. The 7950 is about 15% faster than the 660TI. Before you ask it depends on which you use as the base (1) when calculating the difference. And the 7950 boost comes in marginally slower than the 670 in their review too so I don't know why you're saying it's a disservice to say the two are competitors in terms of performance.
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A royal king edition card........Quite different than a regular 7950.
.
In what way?
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go see MOH Warfighter 2560 x 1600 Ultra 4x MSAA in those reviews.
http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page12.html
" At 1920x1200 the GeForce GTX 670 is 12% faster than the Radeon HD 7950 and just 2% faster than the 7950 Boost. However the GTX 670 is 27% more expensive than both cards, so whichever way you slice it the Radeon HD 7950 Boost is the better proposition and things just get worse for the GTX 670 as the resolution is increased."
"at 1920x1200, the GeForce GTX 680 was just ~1% faster than the Radeon HD 7970, while it trailed the 7970 GHz Edition by a 7% margin. This doesn’t change at 2560x1600, where the GeForce GTX 680 is 2% slower than the Radeon HD 7970 and 11% slower than the 7970 GHz Edition, making the 7970 the obvious choice."
At 1080p GTX 670 marginally ahead while at 1440p its actually the HD 7950 boost which is ahead. if you still want to be in denial that HD 7950 boost does not match GTX 670 go ahead.

You deride people who use the Tech Report review, but you keep using the same Techspot review in your arguments. No other review, and no other game, shows the difference as that large. The [H] review pegged it at 10% faster in Apples to Apples for MOH:W.
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The 7950 boost is faster than the 660TI by 13% at 1080p according to TPU's summary. No, rather the 660TI is 13% slower than the 7950. The 7950 is about 15% faster than the 660TI. Before you ask it depends on which you use as the base (1) when calculating the difference. And the 7950 boost comes in marginally slower than the 670 in their review too so I don't know why you're saying it's a disservice to say the two are competitors in terms of performance.
In what way?

Sorry my top of the head percentages were off by a few. The 7950 is, at best, centered between the 660 Ti and the 670 in the Techpowerup review - at lower resolutions it is much closer to the 660 Ti. So it can't be marginally slower then the 670 without also being marginally faster than the 660 Ti. You can't have it both ways.
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So according to this link, a reference 7950 and reference 660TI are EQUAL?

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So according to this link, a reference 7950 and reference 660TI are EQUAL?

It seems so. But the reference 7950 they're using is clocked in at 800mhz instead of the (new?) 850 + boost standard

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7950_X2_Boost/1.html
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