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post #171 of 745
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Originally Posted by raghu78 View Post

you are welcome to a benchmark faceoff. the guy who should be able to respond to your benches is bruennis. he can bench his Gigabyte HD 7950 at 1200 Mhz and you can bench at 1300 Mhz if you feel thats a fair representation of the average overclocks on air for the respective cards. if you want all out max is ok he can bench at 1275 Mhz against whatever you max out.
Wait, you don't even own a 7900 series card? Why not take your own advice, that you are oh so eager to spread. rolleyes.gif
post #172 of 745
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Originally Posted by Mygaffer View Post

I saw some people wondering at the relative scores, they used an overclocked product, from the article.

For the 100th time, both cards are overclocked. They used the highest factory oc 7950 boost vs the highest clocked 660ti oc.

With some 7950 coming voltage locked now, a lot of arguments in favor of it are invalidated.

Most 7950, without voltage, hit 1025-1050mhz max.

However to be fair, even 1025-1050 should be enough to pull ahead of a 660ti in an oc comparison.
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post #173 of 745
I didn't go through all of the pages - there is a lot of them, but someone pointed out the weird latency reported for a single card in the first few pages, so I went back and looked for the 660ti review , compared with the 7950 OC/Boost, in Skyrim.

Their new benchmark:


The benchmark in their 660ti review:



All skyrim settings are the same.

source for the 660ti original review

It does seem like something weird is going on here, their OC card was running at 880mhz, can a small improvement account for such different results in latency?
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post #174 of 745
Weird review.

7950 is the better card obviously.
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post #175 of 745
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Originally Posted by d-block View Post

Wait, you don't even own a 7900 series card? Why not take your own advice, that you are oh so eager to spread. rolleyes.gif

Looking at his sig rig I'd say it's likely an issue of money - he obviously would get one if he felt he required an upgrade biggrin.gif

It'll be great if these guys can put benches out there, I feel that this review is stacked heavily in Nvidia's favor.
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post #176 of 745
It would be awesome to see 7950 vs GTX 670 benchs at max overclocks biggrin.gif , I am going to inform people in HD7900 series thread in AMD/ ATI forums...
Unfortunately I cannot participate in GTX 670s side since my GTX 670 is non-existent anymore tongue.gif .
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post #177 of 745
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Originally Posted by mcg75 View Post

For the 100th time, both cards are overclocked. They used the highest factory oc 7950 boost vs the highest clocked 660ti oc.

No.

The Sapphire Vapor-X is in fact one of the least overclocked 7950s. It runs at 850MHz clock, and AMD's specification is 800MHz (from the launch papers). Turbo speed is just 25MHz above specs.

On the other hand, the Zotac runs at 125MHz above stock, turboing 150MHz above stock.


If that is fair, then something's wrong.
   
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Clock for clock doesn't matter so much as dollar for dollar.

If I spend $300 on AMD and $300 on Nvidia, then that is a fair comparison. Let's say retailers are selling the GTX 670 for $300 and the 7870 for $300 (obviously they're not, but for the sake of argument). Then the 7870 vs 670 is a fair fight at stock and Max OC. When saying that the Zotac has this OC and the 7950 has that OC and it's not enough and all and everything, that's not what The Tech Report was going for. They grabbed two cards for about the same price (the Radeon is actually more expensive) and threw them into a system at their stock settings.

TL;DR: They were benching dollar for dollar, not clock for clock. Could some better choices have been made about which 7950 should have been selected? Perhaps.
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Man people sure do love to use underlines and bolding lol biggrin.gif
Basically since Nvidia won, the site is Nvidia favored (as some users have stated.) headscratch.gif
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post #180 of 745
It's not the site is the review which is biased.

Until we get some proper benches done, this thread should probably be locked since this will go on for ages.

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