Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [The Tech Report] Radeon HD 7950 vs. GeForce GTX 660 Ti revisited
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[The Tech Report] Radeon HD 7950 vs. GeForce GTX 660 Ti revisited - Page 3  

post #21 of 745
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadlessKnight View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Behemoth777 View Post

Trust me when I say, I would have gone with the 7950 even after looking at this review. This is just a single review though, how many other reviews have we seen that put the 7950 ahead of the 660 ti, especially when oc'd? Something must be funky with their testing imo, not just because the 660 ti won in many cases, but because of how many "problems" they had with the amd card. I haven't had one problem with my 7950 in the 3 months i've owned it.

Other websites use other methods of testing, Tech Report use another method which is framerate latency, other websites don't.
If you don't look at the framerate latencies you will come with a totally different conclusion as they trade blows at stock in average fps (in shader intensive games).


As I said. They're doing it wrong. The 7950 they used is set up for fail, it's showing more latency than crossfire systems. That is lol worthy. It means they had issues with the driver and still posted the junk.
The 3930
(26 items)
 
Junior's 3930
(22 items)
 
DATA/HTPC
(20 items)
 
  hide details  
The 3930
(26 items)
 
Junior's 3930
(22 items)
 
DATA/HTPC
(20 items)
 
  hide details  
post #22 of 745
Quote:
Originally Posted by tsm106 View Post

As I said. They're doing it wrong. The 7950 they used is set up for fail, it's showing more latency than crossfire systems. That is lol worthy. It means they had issues with the driver and still posted the junk.
Quote:
Edit : They might need to re-test again for confirmation with slightly older drivers as tsm106 said, but I don't think they deliberately skewed the results against AMD. Tech Report is an old and a well known site, they won't easily destroy their reputation just because they have personal problems with AMD.
Desktop
(16 items)
 
Laptop
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.40 GHz Asus Rampage V Extreme/U3.1 MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming 6GB  Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4x4) DDR4-3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 Pro 1TB Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 512GB NZXT Kraken X62 Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Asus VG236H 23" 120 Sony XBR43X800D 43" 4K TV CoolerMaster Octane Storm + Razer Turret EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G3 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Graphite 760T Black Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Razer Turret Razer Goliathus Asus Xonar Essence STX II 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-4720HQ @ 2.60 GHz Asus G751JY Asus GTX 980M 4GB SK hynix HMT41GS6BFR8A-PB 16GB (2x8) DDR3L-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
SanDisk SD7SB3Q128G1002  HGST Travelstar 7K1000 1TB HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GUC0N Windows 10 Home 64-bit 
MonitorAudio
LG Philips LP173WF4-SPD1 + G-SYNC @ 75 Hz Realtek ALC668 
  hide details  
Desktop
(16 items)
 
Laptop
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.40 GHz Asus Rampage V Extreme/U3.1 MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming 6GB  Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4x4) DDR4-3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 Pro 1TB Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 512GB NZXT Kraken X62 Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Asus VG236H 23" 120 Sony XBR43X800D 43" 4K TV CoolerMaster Octane Storm + Razer Turret EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G3 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Graphite 760T Black Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Razer Turret Razer Goliathus Asus Xonar Essence STX II 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-4720HQ @ 2.60 GHz Asus G751JY Asus GTX 980M 4GB SK hynix HMT41GS6BFR8A-PB 16GB (2x8) DDR3L-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
SanDisk SD7SB3Q128G1002  HGST Travelstar 7K1000 1TB HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GUC0N Windows 10 Home 64-bit 
MonitorAudio
LG Philips LP173WF4-SPD1 + G-SYNC @ 75 Hz Realtek ALC668 
  hide details  
post #23 of 745
It's already known that the 7950 > 660ti. Anyone who leaves the 7950 @ stock is wasting their money. These babies excel when OC'd and rivals even the 680/7970.

Basically, this review is a load of baloney.
i7k
(21 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770k Asrock z87 Extreme6 Gigabyte 1080 Ti Aorus Xtreme 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 500GB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB Samsung 850 EVO 2TB Seagate Barracuda LP 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
2TB Seagate Barracuda Deepcool Assassin Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Samsung KS8000 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
QNIX QX2710 Evolution ll ASUS VG248QE SAMSUNG 2433BW Logitech G710+ 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III Series 850W Corsair 750D Logitech G600 Creative Sound Blaster Z 
Audio
Sennheiser HD 380 Pro 
  hide details  
i7k
(21 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770k Asrock z87 Extreme6 Gigabyte 1080 Ti Aorus Xtreme 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 500GB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB Samsung 850 EVO 2TB Seagate Barracuda LP 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
2TB Seagate Barracuda Deepcool Assassin Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Samsung KS8000 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
QNIX QX2710 Evolution ll ASUS VG248QE SAMSUNG 2433BW Logitech G710+ 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III Series 850W Corsair 750D Logitech G600 Creative Sound Blaster Z 
Audio
Sennheiser HD 380 Pro 
  hide details  
post #24 of 745
I like how they review things but they have to take into account that extent that people feel these frame render time differently.

And I think most of us know what happens when the cards are overclocked, the 7950 is so held back at stock it's unreal.

660TI has the win at stock due to higher clock speeds.
post #25 of 745
Eh,I take all this frame latency with a grain of salt. There is a lot of factors taken for granted in his "testing" method.I can't even begin to understand all that 99th percentile BS he cooked up.This is just to fringe for me,I want to see someone else back-up these claims of high-latency across the board. This is all supposed on FRAPS,who's to say the lag isn't there?
Amelia
(13 items)
 
Professional
(13 items)
 
RCPC#1
(17 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1100t MSI 890FX GD65 MSI Radeon HD5670 GSkill RipjawsX DDR3 PC3 12800 2x4GB CL8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD Black 1TB SATA III Samsung BD Zalman 9900MAX Windows 7 64 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
AOC 22" LED Logitech Kingwin Lazer Platinum 500w Fractal Design R3 
Other
Samsung 470 SSD 128GB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 960T Asus M4A88T-VEVO Asus Strix R7 370 SuperTalent Perfomance 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
GSkill Snipers Monster Daytona Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7,200 RPM 16Mb cache Memorex DVD/RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H60 Windows 8N IBM 9494 19" LCD IBM 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair GS500 In Win H-Frame Wolfking OCZ Behemoth 
Audio
JBL Creature 
  hide details  
Amelia
(13 items)
 
Professional
(13 items)
 
RCPC#1
(17 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1100t MSI 890FX GD65 MSI Radeon HD5670 GSkill RipjawsX DDR3 PC3 12800 2x4GB CL8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD Black 1TB SATA III Samsung BD Zalman 9900MAX Windows 7 64 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
AOC 22" LED Logitech Kingwin Lazer Platinum 500w Fractal Design R3 
Other
Samsung 470 SSD 128GB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 960T Asus M4A88T-VEVO Asus Strix R7 370 SuperTalent Perfomance 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
GSkill Snipers Monster Daytona Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7,200 RPM 16Mb cache Memorex DVD/RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H60 Windows 8N IBM 9494 19" LCD IBM 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair GS500 In Win H-Frame Wolfking OCZ Behemoth 
Audio
JBL Creature 
  hide details  
post #26 of 745
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redwoodz View Post

Eh,I take all this frame latency with a grain of salt. There is a lot of factors taken for granted in his "testing" method.I can't even begin to understand all that 99th percentile BS he cooked up.This is just to fringe for me,I want to see someone else back-up these claims of high-latency across the board. This is all supposed on FRAPS,who's to say the lag isn't there?

That is an interesting point! It may be a FRAPS issue, either fraps itself or AMD drivers and FRAPS need an update.
Rig 2.0
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k Asus P8Z77-V EVGA GTX780 SC ACX Samsung DDR 3 (2 DIMMS) MV-3V4G3D/US 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 830 SSD WD Caviar Black Asus DVD/RW Xigmatek s-1283 HDT (Air Cooling) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Scythe Slipstream 1200RPM (x2) Antec 140mm + Antec 120mm + Xigmatek 120mm (x2) Win 7 64bit Acer S243HL bmii - 24" 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX750 Corsair Carbide 300R MX 518 Auzentek X-Fi Forte 7.1 
  hide details  
Rig 2.0
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k Asus P8Z77-V EVGA GTX780 SC ACX Samsung DDR 3 (2 DIMMS) MV-3V4G3D/US 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 830 SSD WD Caviar Black Asus DVD/RW Xigmatek s-1283 HDT (Air Cooling) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Scythe Slipstream 1200RPM (x2) Antec 140mm + Antec 120mm + Xigmatek 120mm (x2) Win 7 64bit Acer S243HL bmii - 24" 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX750 Corsair Carbide 300R MX 518 Auzentek X-Fi Forte 7.1 
  hide details  
post #27 of 745
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadlessKnight View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsm106 View Post

As I said. They're doing it wrong. The 7950 they used is set up for fail, it's showing more latency than crossfire systems. That is lol worthy. It means they had issues with the driver and still posted the junk.
Quote:
Edit : They might need to re-test again for confirmation with slightly older drivers as tsm106 said, but I don't think they deliberately skewed the results against AMD. Tech Report is an old and a well known site, they won't easily destroy their reputation just because they have personal problems with AMD.


They won't easily? It's a bit too late for that. They already let the cat out of the bag with their take on the APU release.


http://techreport.com/blog/23638/amd-attempts-to-shape-review-content-with-staged-release-of-info
The 3930
(26 items)
 
Junior's 3930
(22 items)
 
DATA/HTPC
(20 items)
 
  hide details  
The 3930
(26 items)
 
Junior's 3930
(22 items)
 
DATA/HTPC
(20 items)
 
  hide details  
post #28 of 745
This was tested in Windows 8

In other words the results they came up with are really of little consequence to slightly over 95% of the PC gaming world
Poison
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3820 @ 4.7 Sabertooth x79 Powercolor 6870x2 G Skill 2133 8gb 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial m4 Noctua DH14 win7 64 ultimate HP 2511x 
KeyboardPowerMouseMouse Pad
microsoft Sidewinder Enermax Modu 87+ 900 Asus GX800 none 
Audio
Yamaha RX-V955, B&W bookshelves and Infinity PS-8 
  hide details  
Poison
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3820 @ 4.7 Sabertooth x79 Powercolor 6870x2 G Skill 2133 8gb 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial m4 Noctua DH14 win7 64 ultimate HP 2511x 
KeyboardPowerMouseMouse Pad
microsoft Sidewinder Enermax Modu 87+ 900 Asus GX800 none 
Audio
Yamaha RX-V955, B&W bookshelves and Infinity PS-8 
  hide details  
post #29 of 745
dat bias...
post #30 of 745
I don't think it's biased at all. Just a bad review by someone who didn't really know what he was doing. As TSM said the single card 7950 showing more frame latency then a crossfire system should have been the major tip off.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
6700k (EK Supremacy Evo) *4.7 @ 1.312 Asus Maximus VIII gene GTX 1080 FE (EK nickel/plexi)* 2075/5401 16gb Corsair 3200  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950pro M.2 256gb Samsung 850 Evo - 512 - Steam Samsung 850 Evo - 512 - Other Apps EK Res 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
EK pump top XSPC EX 360 XSPC EX 240 10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine 3 TKL  EVGA 650 Fractal Arc Mini 2 G303 
  hide details  
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
6700k (EK Supremacy Evo) *4.7 @ 1.312 Asus Maximus VIII gene GTX 1080 FE (EK nickel/plexi)* 2075/5401 16gb Corsair 3200  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950pro M.2 256gb Samsung 850 Evo - 512 - Steam Samsung 850 Evo - 512 - Other Apps EK Res 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
EK pump top XSPC EX 360 XSPC EX 240 10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine 3 TKL  EVGA 650 Fractal Arc Mini 2 G303 
  hide details  
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Hardware News
This thread is locked  
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [The Tech Report] Radeon HD 7950 vs. GeForce GTX 660 Ti revisited