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Who cares about those who do not overclock? They can go read Cnet for more info eh?

Guess I'll leave now? lol.
 
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Who cares about those who do not overclock? They can go read Cnet for more info eh?

Guess I'll leave now? lol.


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In all fairness, I used to love cnet video reviews. lol.
 
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He can always flash back to stock if he kills it
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For the 100th time, both cards are overclocked. They used the highest factory oc 7950 boost vs the highest clocked 660ti oc.
With some 7950 coming voltage locked now, a lot of arguments in favor of it are invalidated.
Most 7950, without voltage, hit 1025-1050mhz max.
However to be fair, even 1025-1050 should be enough to pull ahead of a 660ti in an oc comparison.

I don't know why you think you are correcting me, I never said only one of the cards was overclocked.rolleyes.gif

Also, the vast majority of 7950 cards are NOT voltage locked. ALL of the 660's are.
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Why? Isn't this overclock.net?

Yes, it is. But at the same time...you are comparing two cards out of the box...

when overclocked, one could hit 1300 core, while the other may hit 1100, while the next one might hit 1350... you cant gauge it accurately.
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I don't know why you think you are correcting me, I never said only one of the cards was overclocked.rolleyes.gif
Also, the vast majority of 7950 cards are NOT voltage locked. ALL of the 660's are.

Technically incorrect. With a bios flash you can get to 1.22 something
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Technically incorrect. With a bios flash you can get to 1.22 something

No you can't. There is a hard lock at 1.21v. Even the stock bios hits 1.21v. It just reports 1.18v in software. You can hard mod a card and it'll just report 1.18v in software.

By default as long as you can keep the gpu under 70c it will run at 1.21v. Thats any GK104.

Here is a good post on the subject.
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This isn't quite true. All 670 / 680 cards can reach 1.21V out of the box, it is just not advertised. I have actually used quite a few GTX 680 cards that reached 1.21V per DMM out of the box, yet software reports 1175mV.

I reiterate again that you cannot go past 1.21V or 1.175V without a hardware modification, period. It is just not possible on the asus card. You can reach 1.21V and software may or may not report it, but the only way to guarantee a higher voltage is by getting the MSI card.

I have read a thread over at OCN with people making a big deal about how their cards are supposedly "overvolted" when they only reach 1.21V. 1.21V is possible out of the box with no modifications. So what? If you want to guarantee a higher voltage you go buy the MSI card.

The last thing to note is that software doesn't always report proper voltage. In fact, it rarely does. The only way to properly measure voltage on the kepler is with a digital multimeter, period end of story. Case in point, my lightnings report 1175mV in software while (on the LN2 BIOS) they are using 1.26V with no software overvoltage. Bottom line is don't take any software reported voltage seriously, DMM is the only method to get a proper reading with kepler cards, period.
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Yes, it is. But at the same time...you are comparing two cards out of the box...
when overclocked, one could hit 1300 core, while the other may hit 1100, while the next one might hit 1350... you cant gauge it accurately.

One is voltage locked and the other isn't. With good cooling a 7950 will almost always have a lot more overclocking headroom. You would have to have a pretty crappy 7950 to not be able to hit 1100mhz and even if you did aftermarket cooling should fix that. You would have to get a golden 660ti to be able to hit 1350mhz. Of the three kepler cards that I had not one could hit 1300mhz.
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Wow there are a lot of mad AMD guys on this thread. They are both great cards people! And both very close in comparison, you can't go wrong with either one.

Right now my new 7870 I got for $199 on my spare PC is shocking the hell out of me with it's OC performance on 12.11. Best bang for the buck card for sure!
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Wow there are a lot of mad AMD guys on this thread. They are both great cards people! And both very close in comparison, you can't go wrong with either one.
Right now my new 7870 I got for $199 on my spare PC is shocking the hell out of me with it's OC performance on 12.11. Best bang for the buck card for sure!

They are absolutely both great cards. A fact some people cant see cause they have red tinted viewing goggles on 24/7

Another review here I am assuming this other review site is also bias?
http://www.techspot.com/review/615-far-cry-3-performance/page3.html

Still waiting on the other guy to get back to me with updated benches.....
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