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i think their new type of testing. It essentially looks at the slowest frames and calculates how much time was spent on those frames.
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You won't even entertain a possibility that doesn't fit with what you believe, will you?
http://www.techspot.com/review/615-far-cry-3-performance/page5.html
What part of "highest possible in-game settings" is confusing? I love how you tout the Techspot review that shows the AMD cards to advantage, but the Techspot review that shows Nvidia ahead is obviously wrong in some way.

techspot is not wrong. techspot benches with SSAO. see their setting screenshots. HDAO is the highest quality ambient occlusion technique in Farcry 3. With HDAO AMD cards are faster.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/12/05/far_cry_3_video_card_performance_preview/1

"The next option however can greatly affect performance, and also image quality, SSAO (Ambient Occlusion) method. The values are SSAO, HBAO, and HDAO. The lowest quality is SSAO, the next one up is HBAO and the best quality is HDAO. HDAO can affect performance a lot, especially in heavy grassy areas. However, we have more testing to do to find out exactly how much performance is affected, and the visual quality benefits. If you want the best visual quality, set this to HDAO."
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You won't even entertain a possibility that doesn't fit with what you believe, will you?
http://www.techspot.com/review/615-far-cry-3-performance/page5.html
What part of "highest possible in-game settings" is confusing? I love how you tout the Techspot review that shows the AMD cards to advantage, but the Techspot review that shows Nvidia ahead is obviously wrong in some way.
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even when there is tons of evidence from website reviews to OCN user benches comparing both cards at same clocks it does not matter to a few people. HD 7950 is on avg 5% slower than HD 7970. the diff varies between 3 - 7% depending on game. majority of games are 5% or lesser. believe what you want to. thumb.gif
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/34761-amd-hd-7950-vs-hd-7970-clocks/?page=2

Assuming HD 7950 can OC as high as HD 7970. From all HD 7950 i have seen its as hard for HD 7950 to break 1.2Ghz as its hard for HD 7970 to break 1.3Ghz. HD 7970 are higher binded chips. Most HD 7950 hit 1.1-1.15 while HD 7970 start there to 1.25. Add 5-7% from Core ~ 15% faster which is a lot.
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All this back and forth arguing over a few fps that will soon change with future driver releases and cards.... really getting sick of all this bickering.
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You won't even entertain a possibility that doesn't fit with what you believe, will you?
http://www.techspot.com/review/615-far-cry-3-performance/page5.html
What part of "highest possible in-game settings" is confusing? I love how you tout the Techspot review that shows the AMD cards to advantage, but the Techspot review that shows Nvidia ahead is obviously wrong in some way.
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i think their new type of testing. It essentially looks at the slowest frames and calculates how much time was spent on those frames.
specool.gif Yes, I like this frame latency thing too. Average framerate just doesn't do it for me. Now, minimum frames is a good marker I think provided that the monitoring software gives the cards a few "mulligans" so to speak. On the Just Cause 2 Dark Tower benchmark, I've seen firsthand a GTX 580 getting 2 fps at 1080 during the first few seconds, then jumping to 70 or 80. So in that case, a min fps of 2 is clearly not representative of what's actually going on. So minimum and frame latency are both good to look at.
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dont know who says the 7950 can beat a 680 but thats just bull xD a sapphire 7970 vapor x could come on par with a 680 when overclocked which in cases like mine where the 680 costs 200 euro more is worth it.

My 7950 can reach the performance of a stock 680 by the way. At least in a heaven benchmark that is.
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I'm a bit late with commenting on this article, but I absolutely do not believe that this was a biased piece. Do I feel that the range of games used was rather narrow, and that AMD could be painted in a better light had other games (Crysis 2, AVP, Metro) been ran? Absolutely. But that doesn't fix the flaw that has been revealed by this article — microstutter.

If there was one argument that could be made for Nvidia having better drivers, this would be it. But this is mostly a recent development — Fermi was awful with microstutter, and arguably worse than Northern Islands.

And so what if users can't notice it? I assure you that they can, but even then — there's still an unpatched flaw here. And the complaints about BF3 not being included are rather unfounded, given that MOH:W uses the same engine.

There are still plenty of other advantages that AMD cards have, but I see this as a case of many trying to have their cake and eat it too.
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I'm a bit late with commenting on this article, but I absolutely do not believe that this was a biased piece. Do I feel that the range of games used was rather narrow, and that AMD could be painted in a better light had other games (Crysis 2, AVP, Metro) been ran? Absolutely. But that doesn't fix the flaw that has been revealed by this article — microstutter.
If there was one argument that could be made for Nvidia having better drivers, this would be it. But this is mostly a recent development — Fermi was awful with microstutter, and arguably worse than Northern Islands.
And so what if users can't notice it? I assure you that they can, but even then — there's still an unpatched flaw here. And the complaints about BF3 not being included are rather unfounded, given that MOH:W uses the same engine.
There are still plenty of other advantages that AMD cards have, but I see this as a case of many trying to have their cake and eat it too.

Microstutter doesnt exist with radeon pro ^^. At least not noticeably,
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Microstutter doesnt exist with radeon pro ^^. At least not noticeably,
Reliance on third party software is something that I see as a weakness.
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Reliance on third party software is something that I see as a weakness.

..... Weakness or not it solves the problem and also has plenty of other perks to go with it.
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