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I have noticed some weird biases towards games on my new build the 7970 is amazing on dirt 3 and Hitman absolution but i have had some stupid problems with the the witcher 2. I wonder if it has something to do with witcher being a nvidia game.
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Using that logic, all reviews are useless to half the people, because none of them test with Vsync on. Why? Because it is pointless to test that way. Hey look, the GTX 680 got an average of 60 FPS. Wow, so did the HD 7970. Oh, the 7950 and GTX 670 did also? Good to know. rolleyes.gif

Are you... serious? The thing being tested and used to criticize AMD in the review isn't FPS. Did you even read the review?
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Plus it adds input lag which is why most of us use Afterburner to limit to fps to 62 or if you have to have Vsync, use Adaptive Vsync via Nvidia Cpanel or RadeonPro Dynamic Vsync

There is a lot of misconceptions in the above. First, why would you limit your FPS to 62 with vsync off? Are you under the mistaken impression that it reduces tearing?

Secondly, neither adaptive vsync or dynamic vsync are optimal solutions. What you want is vsync with triple buffering if your game supports it, or forced via D3D overrider or RadeonPro.

Lastly, vsync + triple buffering introduces minimal input lag.

I suggest reading anandtech's article on triple buffering, for starters before trying to spout off nonsense: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2794
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SNIP

Funny how you missed the important part

http://media.bestofmicro.com/T/H/357461/original/Detail%20Frame%20Rate%20Crossfire%2005%20DVC%2040%20fps.png

http://media.bestofmicro.com/T/C/357456/original/Detail%20Frame%20Rate%2003%20SLI%20Adaptive%20VSync.png



I Think its pretty well known now or should be that TR is a biased site, the quicker it goes the way of OBR, tweaktown etc, the better for anyone wanting a mutual unbiased free information.

AMD don`t seem to learn from their mistakes! especially the GPU market department (chriss hook) who recently gave free GPU`s to TR for promoting their site but it still back fired. I think Chriss hook or person responsible for this mess should step down bcoz its causing AMD more harm then good.

The nvidia marketing is going into overdrive via sites like TechReport bcoz nvidia is losing market share in q4 from having kept up the high margins and from refusing to drop prices on gtx680 and gtx670. AMD cant afford mistakes like these in time of money crunch even when they have superior GPUs if the staff are not competent In realizing that SCOTT has hatred for AMD no matter what they do.... sad really
Edited by badrapper - 12/8/12 at 3:57am
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There is a lot of misconceptions in the above. First, why would you limit your FPS to 62 with vsync off? Are you under the mistaken impression that it reduces tearing?
Secondly, neither adaptive vsync or dynamic vsync are optimal solutions. What you want is vsync with triple buffering if your game supports it, or forced via D3D overrider or RadeonPro.
Lastly, vsync + triple buffering introduces minimal input lag.
I suggest reading anandtech's article on triple buffering, for starters before trying to spout off nonsense: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2794

Is Vsync forced via D3D Overrider with modern GPUs free of input lag ? (serious question). Everytime I used it it always made some sort of input lag (which is far more annoying to me than the tearing). One of the few develepors that have perfect Vsync is Capcom (in my experience at least), almost all other games I ever played had input lag with Vsync turned on.
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You need to choose your words better. Nvidia "made them do this." Geez, what'd they do, bind and gag them? Nvidia can't force them, and in case you didn't notice, Scott Wasson doesn't particularly care for companies trying to skew the results of their products' testing.
Uh, no. That's not how it works. Your opinion is saturated by illogical thinking. Therefore, it is in fact inferior to mine.
Way to completely miss what I said there.
Depends entirely on what you are trying to show. This review is about frame jitter, which has next to nothing to do with what you are complaining about.
Once again, my architecture remark has seemingly gone over your head.

The only thing superior to mine is your unjustified amount of self asteem. Good luck with that.

My wording and thinking were spot on. And still are. Just that your overconfident view of the world makes you think it is impossible to understand such things actually happen doesn't make it the truth. Money makes the world go round. Here we go again in circles. I really don't care what you believe of not. But don't expect everyone to agree with you just because you have a big mouth and strong wording.

Perhaps if you were to take a minute to step outside your own view and look at the other responses to this thread you would actually see how the mayority of the community is reading the article. It could be about how his lunch was, but still the mayority is treating it as a "which card is better" article. Open your eyes man. Last thing this world needs is another "I am not crazy, the rest of the world is" view on things.
 
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Hm, I was under the impression that the 7870 was more of the competitor to the 660Ti, and the 7950 to the 670. Am I completely wrong in thinking this?
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Hm, I was under the impression that the 7870 was more of the competitor to the 660Ti, and the 7950 to the 670. Am I completely wrong in thinking this?

Nope you are right. The author had some problem with 7950 and windows 8 or something else. A oc 7950 goes even with a gtx680 oc
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This is hilarious. Homeles finally comes in and posts some straight-forward common sense, and then the AMD die-hards start arguing that v-sync should be used! laughingsmiley.gif

Right, that's how they're going to compare what each card can do, by limiting each one's performance rolleyes.gif. Nice representation of each card's different behavior by having v-sync enabled. Wonderful try.

So many desperate people in here. And for what? So you can deny Nvidia's better Windows 8 drivers and latencies? Is it really so hard to believe Nvidia has better Windows 8 drivers and tighter latencies? Obviously not, since we've all seen a review where the Nvidia card had lower fps but the reviewer specifically said they'd still prefer the Nvidia one because it was "smoother".Well, this review shows why.
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This is hilarious. Homeles finally comes in and posts some straight-forward common sense, and then the AMD die-hards start arguing that v-sync should be used! laughingsmiley.gif
Right, that's how they're going to compare what each card can do, by limiting each one's performance rolleyes.gif. Nice representation of each card's different behavior by having v-sync enabled. Wonderful try.
So many desperate people in here. And for what? So you can deny Nvidia's better Windows 8 drivers and latencies? Is it really so hard to believe Nvidia has better Windows 8 drivers and tighter latencies? Obviously not, since we've all seen a review where the Nvidia card had lower fps but the reviewer specifically said they'd still prefer the Nvidia one because it was "smoother".Well, this review shows why.
Pretty accurate summary of this thread lachen.gif
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