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Sorry
I just read that review and it picked every single game that is going for the GTX600 series strengths and none of it's weaknesses. Every, single, game they decided to test has always and is well known, to run crap on the 7000 series GPU.
That review was biased and unfair to be honest.
Wait a second. Why would a card run some games better than others? Is the game more advanced/require more resources than the card supplies? This would then indicate that the competitor's card (which seems to run it just fine) is, in fact, a better card.
Don't be a fanboy and find faults with the test/tester when the results show that one product performed below another. If you have a problem with the tests, perform your own tests, and share that data...
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As I said. They're doing it wrong. The 7950 they used is set up for fail, it's showing more latency than crossfire systems. That is lol worthy. It means they had issues with the driver and still posted the junk.

So they had issues with AMD's drivers? Sounds like AMD's fault not techreports.


Anyway this review is interesting, some of those games are usually nvidia favored, but sleeping dogs and MOH are both more AMD.

I am wanting to buy a 7950, but I might consider the 660ti now.
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Sorry
I just read that review and it picked every single game that is going for the GTX600 series strengths and none of it's weaknesses. Every, single, game they decided to test has always and is well known, to run crap on the 7000 series GPU.
That review was biased and unfair to be honest.
Wait a second. Why would a card run some games better than others? Is the game more advanced/require more resources than the card supplies? This would then indicate that the competitor's card (which seems to run it just fine) is, in fact, a better card.
Don't be a fanboy and find faults with the test/tester when the results show that one product performed below another. If you have a problem with the tests, perform your own tests, and share that data...

The test really is bad, the latency increase over the 4 month span should be evidence of a serious problem with his review. I like the Nvidia owners instantly jumping on this and justifying their purchases. Lets just face facts AMD has this round once their cards are overclocked and are even at stock clocks.

The guy is obviously biased look at the tirades and rants he has put out about AMD and tell me that he doesn't have a bias against them. Every site that has done a recent review with the 12.11 drivers and Nvidia's most recent 300 series has AMD ahead.

If I were to buy a card right now, it would most definitely be a 7950 or 7970.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/57413-amd-12-11-never-settle-driver-performance.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/
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I don't think you know what superior means.
superior
  1. Higher in quality.
  2. Higher in rank.
  3. Located above.
  4. Being greater or better than average; extraordinary.
If it's faster overall, if it's better, then it IS superior. Period.

Let me slap you in the face with your own comment.
  1. Higher in quality. Its not higher in quality, dont even know where that came from.
  2. Higher in rank., LOL its not higher in rank if its getting beat.
  3. Being greater or better than average; extraordinary. Better than average? then both cards are superior....to the average.


Here is the actuall definition.

su·pe·ri·or

Adjective
Higher in rank, status, or quality: "a superior officer".
Noun
A person or thing superior to another in rank, status, or quality, esp. a colleague in a higher position.


So considering your using it in reference to the 660ti, no its not superior. How can it be superior if its getting beat in some tests?!?!

I am not saying the 660TI is better either, I'm just saying its sensationalist remarks like that, that make this community full of misinformation. the 7950 and 660ti are about on par, with a slight edge to the 7950 IMO. That again does not mean its superior or gets destroyed.

Just to sum up, the only benchmarks you guys will accept are ones showing AMD in the best light right? OK.....

In case you missed this review of all GPUs with current drivers. It shows exactly my point.
http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page4.html
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This has to be either a driver issue or an issue with Windows 8. There is no way that is legit. It used to be that the 660 Ti competed with the 7950, but now that the Cat 12.11's are out, almost every card in AMD's GCN arsenal has jumped a level. The 7950 competes with the GTX 670, not the 660 Ti.

We need a 3rd party to confirm their results. Something is amiss.
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Read the article in its entirety. GTX 660ti and Radeon 7950 are about even. Nice. They're about the same price, so the choice comes down to:

  • Power Consumption
  • Heat
  • Fan Noise
  • Overclockability/Overvoltability
  • Personal brand preference

Nice to see them at such a similar price point and performance point too.
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Does it matter which one is better if they both perform about the same?
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Does it matter which one is better if they both perform about the same?
About the same != equal.
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Does it matter which one is better if they both perform about the same?
About the same != equal.

They're not the same though. Putting aside the glaring inconsistencies in the review. The 660ti in this review is clocked 161mhz higher core and 402mhz higher memory. Guess what happens when you clock the 7950 to the same clocks? yessir.gif
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Why did they use overclocked cards? According to their respective websites the stock 660TI has a stock frequency of 915mhz and the stock 7950 clocks in at 850mhz. At 1111mhz the 660TI has a 21% overclock over its stock clock while the 7950 has a 12% OC at 950mhz
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