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Originally Posted by ebduncan View Post

wait people are still bickering here?

And that's just the way it is, today. Amd has a solid win this round. There is no sense debating it further. Not only are these cards faster in games, but stomp all over the Nvidia cards in compute. I don't care about the past, this is right now. Overall even with Nvidia had a lead it was short lived. Amd came out with their cards first, which smacked around nividia then, Nvidia releases their new cards more or less ties Amd's cards. Amd makes adjustment with ghz 7970. Amd publishes Never Settle Drivers and that was all she wrote Nvidia.

You proved this how? All the benchmarks and links you brought? Or you expect people to just believe your talkie, talk because of your extensive experience? Did you even read it? I suggest you read it. Bring some benckmarks links or some proof.thumb.gif Do you have anything showing amd has the fastest system on the planet?
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Only the 7950 registers on our "badness" meter in this test scenario. The GTX 660 Ti doesn't take over 50 milliseconds to produce any of the frames, while the 7950 spends almost a fifth of a second crunching frames above our threshold.

http://www.3dmark.com/ticker

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Originally Posted by ebduncan View Post

the 660ti has no chance against the 7950.
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Originally Posted by Raptorpowa View Post

yep, they can't accept the fact that 660ti suck againts 7950.
People openly bashing a card. Yet they get defensive when he does the same.thumbsupsmiley.png
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You proved this how? All the benchmarks and links you brought? Or you expect people to just believe your talkie, talk because of your extensive experience? Did you even read it? I suggest you read it. Bring some benckmarks links or some proof.thumb.gif Do you have anything showing amd has the fastest system on the planet?
http://www.3dmark.com/ticker

Borderlands 2, an nvidia optimized game, has the 660 Ti winning against a 7950? Such a shocker. rolleyes.gif

But in all reality, the 7950 is a faster card than a 660 ti. It just is.
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Originally Posted by Dimaggio1103 View Post

Seriously some of you guys really need to learn how to communicate without being condescending and negative. I am guilty of it from time to time, but that's a whole new level of disrespect, and its against the ToS.

They gave you facts in a very matter-of-fact way, and you take it as condescending? I read nothing that could have been construed as condescending from those guys. What in the world are you talking about?
Edited by Mad Pistol - 12/10/12 at 8:14pm
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Originally Posted by Motive View Post

Rare Golden Card Exception = Whole 7950 series representation.

Really.

Really?

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7950 @ 1325mhz = 12303 GPU score


http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5137480

670 @ 1325mhz = 10947 GPU score
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Originally Posted by mcg75 View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5179384

My 670 ran at 1325mhz.

Edited by tsm106 - 12/10/12 at 8:18pm
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Wow......
A. I never said the 7950 is crap, so where you getting this from?
B. I was trying to simply post benches and if Im wrong about something you ever here of being mature abut it and educate me some? Nah, I suppose being snarky and immature makes you feels better....
C. I have said almost in every post I make the 7950 I think is better than my 660ti edging it out no problem. I was only trying to combat the misinformation that its god like, and remind you it was not so great just a few months ago.
TSM I am shocked at how rude you can be. You just called Hokies a rude fanboy yet your acting just as rude as he was......
My fault on misreading the 3dmark11 score apologies didn't see the difference in CPU physics. arrowheadsmiley.png
Seriously some of you guys really need to learn how to communicate without being condescending and negative. I am guilty of it from time to time, but that's a whole new level of disrespect, and its against the ToS.
Those links show that score is in the top 10%tile for that card....I would not call that average......

even after tons of data you keep saying the same thing. Get this clear. the HD 7950 , HD 7950 OC and HD 7950 boost use the same chip as HD 7970 Ghz , but wth 256 shaders disabled. ROPS, memory bus remain same. the only difference is stock clocks. the HD 7950 released back in Jan was at stock 800 Mhz. HD 7950 OC versions ran upto 900 Mhz. HD 7950 boost version released in Aug 2012 runs at 925 Mhz boost. a few factory OC models run at 950 Mhz boost. the HD 7950 boost at stock power setting of 0% does not run at max boost speed consistently. just maxing power option to +20% ensures it always runs at 925 or 950 mhz , whichever is the max boost clocks.

clock for clock HD 7950 is 5% slower than HD 7970. This too is proven beyond doubt by HD 7950 users and many reviews. sonda5 and bruennis HD 7950s can beat any voltage overclocked GTX 680. Its not Heaven or 3D Mark 11. but across a wide range of games. clock for clock HD 7950 is faster than GTX 670 and GTX 680.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1329423/7970-ghz-edition-or-gtx-680-2gb/10#post_18655210

Now what remains is the average overclocks. 1150 Mhz is average for the HD 7950 boost edition with voltage tweaking. at those speeds a GTX 680(1.3 Ghz) and GTX 670(1.35 Ghz) would be needed to catch up.
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Some of us have the nvidia cards too and we can compare benches with the same platform in real time w/o relying on internet benches...When we debate about something I think we know what were talking about...really smile.gif
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People openly bashing a card. Yet they get defensive when he does the same.thumbsupsmiley.png

the hard facts are that a GTX 660 Ti is no competition against a HD 7950 boost or HD 7950 OC even at stock. with voltage overclocking a HD 7950 at 1.15 Ghz keeps up with a GTX 680 overclocked to 1.3 Ghz.
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Some of us have the nvidia cards too and we can compare benches with the same platform in real time w/o relying on internet benches...When we debate about something I think we know what were talking about...really smile.gif

exactly.
Edited by raghu78 - 12/10/12 at 8:33pm
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the hard facts are that a GTX 660 Ti is no competition against a HD 7950 boost or HD 7950 OC even at stock. with voltage overclocking a HD 7950 at 1.15 Ghz keeps up with a GTX 680 overclocked to 1.3 Ghz.
exactly.
I recommend it over the 670, so I defiantly agree with you. I just don't like to see a group of people beating up on one person and his card.
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Borderlands 2, an nvidia optimized game, has the 660 Ti winning against a 7950? Such a shocker. rolleyes.gif
But in all reality, the 7950 is a faster card than a 660 ti. It just is.

What about Far Cry 3? That's an "AMD optimized" game, but the 660 Ti comes out ahead there:
http://www.techspot.com/review/615-far-cry-3-performance/page3.html

The 7950 Boost is faster overclocked, but out of the box they are very close, and the 660 Ti beats the non-boost card out of the box.
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the hard facts are that a GTX 660 Ti is no competition against a HD 7950 boost or HD 7950 OC even at stock. with voltage overclocking a HD 7950 at 1.15 Ghz keeps up with a GTX 680 overclocked to 1.3 Ghz.

No, at stock they are very close.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/23.html
Edited by Forceman - 12/10/12 at 8:57pm
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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

Borderlands 2, an nvidia optimized game, has the 660 Ti winning against a 7950? Such a shocker. rolleyes.gif
But in all reality, the 7950 is a faster card than a 660 ti. It just is.

"In reality" the vast majority of games are nVidia optimized, because AMD has terrible third party support by comparison. Not to mention their drivers are inferior in both quality and timeliness.

If you want to complain about TWIMTBP you're certainly entitled to do so, but that doesnt make it magically disappear.
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