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post #691 of 745
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Are you mental? I was just saying the stock 7950 and 660ti are close in performance with a slight edge to the 7950. I posted proof as well, yet for some reason your now babbling about some guys golden 7950 and a 680 lightning? wth?
I would not say they are in same class as the 7950 OC's like a beast and the 660ti does not. However at stock considering the bigger bus and core that the 7950 has the 660ti is darn impressive. withing 1-3 FPS of your 7950.

first of all you keep talking about a product released in Jan and you conveniently forget there was an update in August to the same product at the same price. you complained about tsm106 being rude to you. so take your own advice. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Motive View Post

7950. Good card. But 680 Lightning it ain't.

He compared a lot more games before selling his GTX 680 Lightning. he was upset that his 300 dollar Gigabyte HD 7950 was beating his 550 dollar GTX 680 lightning. thumb.gif
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I agree with this! Why the hell are we comparing a 680 to a golden 7950. I bet a LHE cooled 580 could crush all of em, that's not relevant either!

that was a Gigabyte HD 7950 (1280 Mhz) compared against a top of the line GTX 680 Lightning(1372 Mhz) . the GTX 680 was running at close to 100 Mhz higher clocks. Both were running with their stock coolers. and still GTX 680 could not beat HD 7950. whats not fair about this comparison.
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post #694 of 745
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He compared a lot more games before selling his GTX 680 Lightning. he was upset that his 300 dollar Gigabyte HD 7950 was beating his 550 dollar GTX 680 lightning. thumb.gif

Yeah because that 7970 matrix totally WASNT more money.
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post #695 of 745
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that was a Gigabyte HD 7950 (1280 Mhz) compared against a top of the line GTX 680 Lightning(1372 Mhz) . the GTX 680 was running at close to 100 Mhz higher clocks. Both were running with their stock coolers. and still GTX 680 could not beat HD 7950. whats not fair about this comparison.

My 1100t at 4.6ghz beats out a 2500k in workstation apps, whats not fair about that comparison? (Heres a hint its blatantly obvious.)

If you want it fair, volt mod both so the Nvidia locked Voltage BS isn't a factor anymore. Nvidia has dice stacked against them in this argument, but I'll be honest, I still wanna see a GPUz of a 7950 running that freaking high let alone on air. Seeing as my mate britishbob can barely do 1200 on his 7970, I call HORSEFEATHERS.
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post #696 of 745
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Yeah because that 7970 matrix totally WASNT more money.

the ASUS Matrix he got whacked his GTX 680 lightning. it was better performance for a lesser price. he got the matrix at 500.
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My 1100t at 4.6ghz beats out a 2500k in workstation apps, whats not fair about that comparison? (Heres a hint its blatantly obvious.)
If you want it fair, volt mod both so the Nvidia locked Voltage BS isn't a factor anymore. Nvidia has dice stacked against them in this argument, but I'll be honest, I still wanna see a GPUz of a 7950 running that freaking high let alone on air. Seeing as my mate britishbob can barely do 1200 on his 7970, I call HORSEFEATHERS.

he was running a voltage unlocked LN2 BIOS. not every GTX 680 Lightning does 1400+ Mhz . some do only 1372 Mhz. thumb.gif
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"Just look at the size difference".. yada yada bla bla. So you're telling me that that is a valid argument? Plus, you should take into account the width.
I'm not sure of the exact width but the 660 TI does look fatter than the 7950 http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Yeston-Prepares-Low-Cost-PCB-for-Radeon-HD-7950-7970-Graphics-Cards-2.jpg/.
So nvidia decided to increase the width instead of the hieight. So uhh? What's the problem? Does that mean the 7950 is better now cause it turns out it's not that much bigger when calculating the size?
Even if i turn out to be wrong about the size, who the hell cares what's under the hood? As long as it brings performance to the table i see no reason to complain.
Check the technical specifications, well. Nvidia architecture does have a texture processing advantage. All Kepler gpus have "full speed" 64bit FP16 bilinear texture sampling rate whereas in the Radeon GCN architecture the fp16 rate is half.
I think 64bit FP16 is for HDR lighting effects whereas INT8 is the regular shading. I'm quite curious to find out the cause of this discrepancy because I recall once having read a review stating that AMD was the only runnerup to offer HDR plus anisotropic filtering without too much performance penalty in the x1950xt era.
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post #698 of 745
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Originally Posted by raghu78 View Post

the ASUS Matrix he got whacked his GTX 680 lightning. it was better performance for a lesser price. he got the matrix at 500.
he was running a voltage unlocked LN2 BIOS. not every GTX 680 Lightning does 1400+ Mhz . some do only 1372 Mhz. thumb.gif

GPUz and pics of rig running, otherwise BS.

Also

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121671

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127693

Exact same price.
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It is absurd that this thread continued for this long, people just can't seem to agree on something so obvious:

Stock performance of the Zotac 660Ti and 7950 Vapor-X is very close according to TR, thus if you believe in the review and are considering a plug and play card @1080p to use with no manual OC you should pick based on features(3D vs Eyefinity etc) and prices.

7950 have significantly more Overclocking headroom due to VR (1150mhz is 20%+ from the 950 offered by the Vapor-X and it is the average HWBot 7950 OC), the 1G extra Vram and 384 bit Bus might not be a significant difference at stock clock rates but should come into play at max OC on 1440p+ resolution(less potential bottleneck = better OC scaling).

660Ti have limited OC headroom in comparison, and while the 2G Vram and 192bit Bus might not be a significant bottleneck at stock speed, when the cards are pushed to the max it is more likely cause bottleneck thus worse OC scaling than the Readon 79xx.

Thus if you are looking for best max OC performance on 1440p or Surround without 3D/FXAA/PhysX, you should pick the Readon.

I enjoyed my 1240(+90)/1705 Gigabyte GTX 670 Windforce on a 3D monitor for a month, however after finding out my eyes can't handle 3D I sold the monitor and card for a Gigabyte 7950 and a 1440p Korean+ Extra $$. Had no problem with either side's driver or hardware, switched purely because I went from 3D to 1440p.
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It is absurd that this thread continued for this long, people just can't seem to agree on something so obvious:

Stock performance of the Zotac 660Ti and 7950 Vapor-X is very close, thus if you are considering a plug and play card @1080p to use with no manual OC you should pick based on features(3D vs Eyefinity etc) and prices.

7950 have significantly more Overclocking headroom due to VR (1150mhz is 20%+ from the 950 offered by the Vapor-X and it is the average HWBot 7950 OC), the 1G extra Vram and 384 bit Bus might not be a significant difference at stock clock rates but should come into play at max OC on 1440p+ resolution.

660Ti have limited OC headroom in comparison, and while the 2G Vram and 192bit Bus might not be a significant bottleneck at stock speed, when the cards are pushed to the max it is more likely cause bottleneck thus worse OC scaling than the Readon 79xx.

Thus if you are looking for best max OC performance on 1440p or Surround without 3D/FXAA/PhysX, you should pick the Readon.

I enjoyed my 1240(+90)/1705 Gigabyte GTX 670 Windforce on a 3D monitor for a month, however after finding out my eyes can't handle 3D I sold the monitor and card for a Gigabyte 7950 and a 1440p Korean+ Extra $$. Had no problem with either side's driver or hardware, switched purely because I went from 3D to 1440p.

... Both cards support 3D, and both cards can do 3-screen Surround/Eyefinity. At the same time even.

And AMD can do FXAA too, the FreeSpace Open project has been doing it for months, not that FXAA is any good.
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