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Does it matter which one is better if they both perform about the same?
About the same != equal.

They're not the same though. Putting aside the glaring inconsistencies in the review. The 660ti in this review is clocked 161mhz higher core and 402mhz higher memory. Guess what happens when you clock the 7950 to the same clocks? yessir.gif
Since when do different architectures have to be clocked at the same frequency for them to be judged accurately? Fact is the 7950 card they tested is one of the fastest out of the box 7950s, same with the 660ti, they are also both the same price, sure i think they should have overclocked the cards and added those results but they didn't, is that because they knew the 7950 would slaughter the 660ti? Doubtful but possible, more than likely it was either time constraints or the fact that not all cards overclock to the same level
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So they had issues with AMD's drivers? Sounds like AMD's fault not techreports.
Exactly. I can't believe how many people are (willfully?) missing that.

It could be that AMD sacrificed tighter latency to boost their average fps numbers, it could simply be a bug, but if that's the state of the current drivers it's not biased to highlight it. It is stating the facts.

They tested every blockbuster title that's released in the last 6 months. If the majority run better on green hardware, AMD should probably do something about that. LOL @ the calls to include Metro benches! Seriously, who even plays that crap anymore? rolleyes.gif

I was a bit surprised the 660 Ti did so well. It may not have as much OC headroom, but considering the perks that come along with it, it's a very reasonable buy.
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With all the sales on the 660 Ti recently I think it has become the best bang for buck out of the box. If you plan to OC the crap out of your card then yeah the 7950 still wins, unless you play games that prefer Nvidia like WoW. Newegg has been selling the Galaxy and Gigabyte versions for as low as $230 after $20 rebate recently. Can't beat that.
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What a stupid review. A 950hz 7950? That's 50hz over my stock speeds and I run my 7950 at 1200 no problem.
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What a stupid review. A 950hz 7950? That's 50hz over my stock speeds and I run my 7950 at 1200 no problem.
Because that's the stock speed, duh.
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Man, and I thought Nvidia users had been defensive over their products when the AMD drivers came out. Holy crap.
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They're not the same though. Putting aside the glaring inconsistencies in the review. The 660ti in this review is clocked 161mhz higher core and 402mhz higher memory. Guess what happens when you clock the 7950 to the same clocks? yessir.gif

So testing the cards out of the box as the manufacturers intended them is somehow pointless? Wow. rolleyes.gif

There is no guarantee the 7950 would be able to hit the same clocks as the 660 anyway. If it's a voltage locked card, which some are coming as now, the majority are going to hit 1000-1050 mhz stable. Keep in mind a 7950 that can hit 1050mhz would be able to pull away from the 660 easily though.
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This has to be either a driver issue or an issue with Windows 8. There is no way that is legit. It used to be that the 660 Ti competed with the 7950, but now that the Cat 12.11's are out, almost every card in AMD's GCN arsenal has jumped a level. The 7950 competes with the GTX 670, not the 660 Ti.
We need a 3rd party to confirm their results. Something is amiss.

Even with the new drivers the 7950 still competes with the 660 Ti at 1080p. It's closer at 2560x1600, but still pretty much between the 660 Ti and 670.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/23.html
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So they compared a 660Ti with a huge ass overclock to a nearly stock HD7950. Way to go thumb.gif
   
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you base your facts on 1 review when theirs tons others show the 7950 is faster the the 670 even the 680 when overclocked good.

Lol, proof? Here is a review showing the 660ti and the 7950 going blow for blow usually being within 1-3 FPS of eachother.

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page4.html

Also, why is everyone saying the 7xxx series is better for overclocking? I owned 3 7870's and only had one that would break 1200MHz this is my first 660ti and it hits 1250MHz no problem on core. Not a large enough sample to be conclusive, but my point is not all 7xxx series cards OC good. Luck of the draw.
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