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post #721 of 745
As a non-gamer, does triple buffering do anything positive ?

My HD 7950 ( XFX DD ) OC'd to 1100/1500 with just a +20% power setting.

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post #722 of 745
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Guys... If it's all about the overclocking then why is hardware voltmodding kepler not allowed? This isn't stockclock.net right wink.gif
Say a 1600mhz 680 that's gaming stable? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb2li2wti04
Honestly though, the whole argument here is pretty ridiculous, the only completely fair way to compare cards is stock versus stock. Ma overlocks depend on so many different variables that the results will always be different depending on the guys who test their cards.

Stock vs Stock isn't viable either as every Kepler have a different dynamic Overclock, their max stock boost clock out of the box is anywhere between 50-110 mhz(number quoted for "Kepler Boost" in the GTX 670 OC thread on OCN) from the boost clock number written in product specification.

I think people don't want to discuss hardware voltmodding because it voids warranty.
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post #723 of 745
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The average joe can get a 7950 from NewEgg/ NCIX/ Amazon where ever, get MSi afterburner and OC it in afew minutes and have it work every time he boots up his PC.
Same cannot be said for a 1600Mhz GTX680 and to that i'd raise the 1800MHz HD7970 which would squash it like a bug.
I think what people are trying to say here is that once a 7950 passes the 1100mhz (which most easily can) mark there is nothing the 660ti can do to catch it unless its running AC3 or something with Physx.
edit: There is a User on HardOCP who has 2 HD7970's running at 1400Mhz in a custom built PC with some water cooling mods and i think there is a User here with 2 GTX680s that run over 1400Mhz, would be cool to see them go head to head smile.gif

So are we discussing average joe usage or proper max OC vs. max OC usage?

And a 7970 won't be doing 1800 unless it's a really golden card and on LN2. the 680 run was on a cooling solution that's viable for 24/7 use. The 680 clocks better once you get to extreme cooling and proper voltmods.
 
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post #724 of 745
Avg users don't use LN2 and any means of extreme cooling and a 680 is slower than 7970 ghz edition..Always will be thumb.giftongue.gif

lol People get so defensive, Nvidia lost this round to AMD, here is hoping they come back strong.
    
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Avg users don't use LN2 and any means of extreme cooling and a 680 is slower than 7970 ghz edition..Always will be thumb.giftongue.gif
lol People get so defensive, Nvidia lost this round to AMD, here is hoping they come back strong.

average users don't overclock...

And the 680 wasn't on LN2 thumb.gif

I consider myself a pretty average hobbyist and I have a phase change setup humming next to my rig. You just need to pay for one, it's not rocket science.
 
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post #726 of 745
An average user dont even have a gtx680....
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post #727 of 745
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average users don't overclock...
And the 680 wasn't on LN2 thumb.gif
I consider myself a pretty average hobbyist and I have a phase change setup humming next to my rig. You just need to pay for one, it's not rocket science.

I've actually read a lot of the forums that get into the voltmod specs. Some of them have a 680 on water doing 1400-1600, doubt it was even golden cards. On air, some said to be getting 1400 but that was pushing it since cooling the VRMs is apparently the tricky part.

[non-quote]

most people on here don't voltmod because they either can't or are afraid. I for one am not, it's pretty easy to solder IMO. But that's also another problem, people will just go "you have a golden card" and ignore whatever. Then they continue to go into threads boasting how X card clocks better. Jeesh, the one time the under dog is on par people really get... well lets just say if the review isn't in AMDs favor it's either biased or done wrong. I think that's garbage talk, it's not impossible for Nvidia to create a good product. Or worse, maybe they screwed up drivers. It's not like they have a new operating system to code for or anything, or the fact that they have been trying to get Linux drivers hunkered down. Nooo, not like they are doing anything really. Wonder what's up?
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Oh brother, people are arguing clock-for-clock now like it's significant in the slightest? Did we forget that 680s have hit upwards of 2000mhz while I haven't seen a 7970 even break 1800?
Right, I forgot. Stock performance doesn't mean anything because this is overclock.net, just don't overclock too far because that doesn't count either.

freaking game on it then it'l be relevant.
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I've actually read a lot of the forums that get into the voltmod specs. Some of them have a 680 on water doing 1400-1600, doubt it was even golden cards. On air, some said to be getting 1400 but that was pushing it since cooling the VRMs is apparently the tricky part.
[non-quote]
most people on here don't voltmod because they either can't or are afraid. I for one am not, it's pretty easy to solder IMO. But that's also another problem, people will just go "you have a golden card" and ignore whatever. Then they continue to go into threads boasting how X card clocks better. Jeesh, the one time the under dog is on par people really get... well lets just say if the review isn't in AMDs favor it's either biased or done wrong. I think that's garbage talk, it's not impossible for Nvidia to create a good product. Or worse, maybe they screwed up drivers. It's not like they have a new operating system to code for or anything, or the fact that they have been trying to get Linux drivers hunkered down. Nooo, not like they are doing anything really. Wonder what's up?

Yeah, the thing I'm trying to say here is that the comparisons people are doing are ridiculous when they're placing all sorts of weird rules in place, no voltmods!, can't void warranty!, can't use 3rd party software!, can't have a bios flash!, can't use anything better than watercooling! etc.

In my opinion there's only a few ways to do this, stock vs. stock (I don't care if one has boost, stock is stock), max OC with 24/7 cooling vs max OC with 24/7 cooling and max OC vs. max OC.
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freaking game on it then it'l be relevant.

There was a 1600mhz one that I posted earlier. Game stable. tongue.gif
 
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Yeah, the thing I'm trying to say here is that the comparisons people are doing are ridiculous when they're placing all sorts of weird rules in place, no voltmods!, can't void warranty!, can't use 3rd party software!, can't have a bios flash!, can't use anything better than watercooling! etc.
In my opinion there's only a few ways to do this, stock vs. stock (I don't care if one has boost, stock is stock), max OC with 24/7 cooling vs max OC with 24/7 cooling and max OC vs. max OC.
There was a 1600mhz one that I posted earlier. Game stable. tongue.gif

Im sorry, but there is NO way he could game on that for hours on 100% usage. What was cooling it certainly not air?
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