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Looking to upgrade my pc, currently it's a emachine(kinda).. but ya looking to keep some items and add others. I think it's better to list them mainly new items I'm looking at. I needed a new pc at the time so went with a 250$ sale on the current PC.

Ok anyways this build started slowly and will grow in time. First few upgrades where a different Case, Ram, Video Card and the the next big step should be a MB if im thinking right.
Don't get me wrong the pc dose decent on most games but I'm looking to expand.

Spec's current.
Athlon x2 II 220
Crucial Ram 4GB
Seagate 500GB Harddrive
Motherboard Trash-Emachines
Power supply: is a 600W cooler master i pulled from my old machine when changing cases.
HD5570 Saphire GPU

So the next upgrade I'm thinking is the motherboard. Had a couple ASUS motherboards and they been good for standard uses. Looking threw the budget boards/this site recommended boards for over clocking, I'm looking at a gigbyte board. I was thinking of just using my stock CPU and hoping it can unlock 1-2cores but information i found searching the web. It looks like it's not a unlockable cpu since it's a newer revison.

So anyways lets get down to business and make sure my head is straight before buying items.

This motherboard stands out, compare to the other one's in the 0-70$ Range. with 4Ram slots, lets me use my current ram till upgrading. With a total of 32gb support.
GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128565

Now as seeing the 2nd step should be a upgraded CPU, there's a few options under 100$. But i seem to find lots of great reviews with the
AMD Phenom II X4 965.
It seems to have better reviews for overclocking etc then the newer version of amd cpu's.
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

With looking maybe to get 4.0Ghz or so out the cpu a new cpu cooler seems like a good idea.
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
Link:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Then after a couple months when i have more money to throw into it would be Ram > GPU upgrade.

So any thoughts/suggestions are welcome, I'd just like to know if the items/my head is on the right track. Thanks for Reading.
post #2 of 18
get a phenom II x4 955. (a used one if you can) it's practically the same with a phenom II 965 just minus a mulitplier bump. don't even bother with the ram 4GB is more than enough for gaming. invest more on the graphics card. if budgets permits get a 7850 or a 7870 it's a perfect pair for a phenom II x4 955. that rig will be so good with gaming for cheap. OC the cpu and you'll get more experience as well. they barely consume power so a 600W coolermaster PSU is fine
post #3 of 18
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CPU:
Currently the 965 is 10$ cheaper then the 955. And 5$ more when not on sale, is there a certain reason to go 955BE over 965BE?
post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by Stalkster View Post

CPU:
Currently the 965 is 10$ cheaper then the 955. And 5$ more when not on sale, is there a certain reason to go 955BE over 965BE?

the only reason that the 955BE is better if the 965 BE is the older 140w revision c2 one then it should be cheaper. otherwise if it's the 125w c3 version then get the 965BE
post #5 of 18
Just get a C3 ver 955 or 965. but i think your graph card is a bet weak. 7850 should be ok
post #6 of 18

As high-priced as the 212 Plus is at the moment (noting that I disregard rebates, they take months to show up most of the time anyway) I can't recommend it.

 

Spend the same amount of money on the significantly superior ETS T40 TB Silence from Enermax instead or default to the XIGMATEK GAIA which is fairly equivalent for less.

post #7 of 18
Honestly, your GPU is too weak to have a need for the more expensive processors like an overclocked Phenom II x4.

Now, depending on the games you like to play, things might be different (SC2, Civ V, and some other are notable CPU-dependent games, for example), but honestly it looks like you should upgrade the GPU first.

I was going to go and suggest and Intel route for a cheap gaming rig, but then I thought about it a bit more and I think getting a quality GPU & PSU (likely necessary for the improved GPU) will probably be a much bigger initial upgrade that new CPU/Mobo.

So depending on how much budget you can swing for the initial upgrade, here's my suggestion.

1) A 7770 + an Antec Basiq 450 (yes it's cheap, but it's not one of the many crap power supplies floating around. It'll work and won't break the bank).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127687
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62331&vpn=VP450&manufacture=Antec
For roughly $160 (not counting a $15 rebate). That's in the same ballpark as the CPU+mobo+cooler you were thinking of, and I think it'll be a bigger immediate improvement for gaming. Assuming, of course, that the games you play are not all CPU-dependent games and are, like most games, GPU-dependent.

2) If you have a little more cash on hand, you could also consider replacing the 7770 with a 7850 (adding in the same PSU as above). That's be $207 - so about $50 more than the above option.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125451

P.S. The below is the dirt-cheap PSU + Mobo (stock cooler) combo I was going to mention. In some few games the Phenom II would be better, but in most games the Pentium below runs as well (rarely, even better) than even an overclocked Phenom II:

Pentium + Biostar H61 ($120 together). Unfortunately all the really cheap Intel mobos have only 2 RAM slots, and I guess you're running 4x1gb right now? Anyway, it's cheaper than a Phenom II so you could afford to add 2x4gb of RAM and still not be at the same price, but I still probably suggest a graphics-card first upgrade path.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116405
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138332
    
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that gigabyte board is not meant for oc'ing. get this instead . . .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280

a bit more expensive but worth it. follow this thread for i included a few benchmarks at various overclocks . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1333899/is-this-3d-mark-cpu-score-ok
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Well i see someone brought up the intel > AMD already, heh. Currently the ram i have is 2x 2G(4GB total), some times i see the 4GB's really getting pushed. I thought the idea of going to 8-12GB would be good for future purpose.

The intel CPU that is brought up don't seem bad, well 2core vs. 4core AMD.

The HD5570 Was bought for it's slim design mostly, as the 250$ rig i bought was a small case. I wanted something to get by really.

Anyways would it be better to just aim for a new GPU/MB now, and overclock the athlon x2 220, Or go for a amd 4core/Intel 2core CPU. The idea of intel is nice but will a 2core intel really out perform a 4core AMD overclocked? The newer intel's are just so expensive.

Most games i run on the current set run good considering. BF3 almost ultra settings, Dirt3 ultra, FFXIV Max, Boarderlands2 Ultra, Farcry 3 High. Good as in no jerky frames and no problems really.

I'm just looking to upgrade really as some times when im multi-tasking it seems to bog down some. I like to keep it future proof some anyways, having the option of upgrading this or that is nice to consider.
I'm more of a MMORPG person really, but i also like to try new games here and there.

Thanks for all the reply's so far, any information i can get regarding this is most welcomed^^
post #10 of 18
I would recommend something like this:

MB > CPU > GPU > Ram. I placed RAM at the end because 4GB will get you through in life, just turn off background processes. But, RAM is so cheap that you can easily buy some (as noted below)

I would check out the motherboards that the people above have recommended. In the price range you are going for, buy used and do yourself a favor. You can buy Gskill ripjaws 2gbx2gb @1600mhz on eBay for $14. Find a motherboard that you like, then find it on eBay to save yourself money. Then buy either a Phenom II x4 955BE/965BE, again, used.

Sadly, your GPU will be Greatly lacking in graphical power, so I would recommend save all that you can (but don't skimp) on the three above upgrades so you can buy a new GPU soon.
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