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Well i see someone brought up the intel > AMD already, heh. Currently the ram i have is 2x 2G(4GB total), some times i see the 4GB's really getting pushed. I thought the idea of going to 8-12GB would be good for future purpose.
The intel CPU that is brought up don't seem bad, well 2core vs. 4core AMD.
The HD5570 Was bought for it's slim design mostly, as the 250$ rig i bought was a small case. I wanted something to get by really.
Anyways would it be better to just aim for a new GPU/MB now, and overclock the athlon x2 220, Or go for a amd 4core/Intel 2core CPU. The idea of intel is nice but will a 2core intel really out perform a 4core AMD overclocked? The newer intel's are just so expensive.
Most games i run on the current set run good considering. BF3 almost ultra settings, Dirt3 ultra, FFXIV Max, Boarderlands2 Ultra, Farcry 3 High. Good as in no jerky frames and no problems really.
I'm just looking to upgrade really as some times when im multi-tasking it seems to bog down some. I like to keep it future proof some anyways, having the option of upgrading this or that is nice to consider.
I'm more of a MMORPG person really, but i also like to try new games here and there.
Thanks for all the reply's so far, any information i can get regarding this is most welcomed^^

It's not Intel greater than AMD here. Actually, I'd rather have a good overclocked Phenom II x4 in a lot situations - but not all, and not by much. The Pentium's advantage is that it's quite a bit cheaper - $70-$80 cheaper when you take into account motherboard and aftermarket cooler (buying used may improve that). So actually kind of the opposite as normal, lol. If you have 2x2gb than that's even better, as no need to upgrade RAM at the same time you do a CPU upgrade.

I wouldn't get a new GPU+MB right now. Get the MB when you get the CPU. Also, I would NOT overclock without getting a new power supply.

P.S. The Pentium dual-core will out-perform an overclocked Phenom II x4 in games that are CPU-dependent and cannot use more than 2 cores. Example: SC2 & Skyrim. They will perform the same where CPU doesn't really matter (most shooters). The Phenom II x4 (overclocked) will perform better in games that are CPU-dependent and can use more than 2 cores. Example: BF3 multiplayer (single player goes in the middle CPu doesn't matter category) & Guild Wars II.

If you don't care as much about graphics (presumably you have a small resolution), and more about multi-tasking, then upgrading CPU & RAM will be more beneficial.
    
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Ya, mainly i was thinking MB>CPU>GPU>Ram.

Well Case to fit it in MB>CPU>GPU>Ram. lol

Case and PSU are pretty good now so looking for further upgrades. I'm just not sure if a 2core amd/intel will cut it at the game industry's growing rate.

MB has to be replaced imo. Emachines MB don't cut it^^. So that for sure would be the 1st upgrade(after the current Ram/GPU/Case i bought.). Keep in mind the GPU was bought for the slim design, which is not a only choice currently. Since the case was upgraded.

I'm mainly trying to make sure the MB/CPU I'm looking at is the right choice for the money about 150$ for both. Intel seems the way to go if you got the money to spend. But considering my budget AMD seems like the proper choice.

The case is a Rosewill Ranger-M. Was like 30$ and had 2fans(replaced the back fan for a better LED fan, had laying around.
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147122
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A Phenom II quad core has a sizable amount of headroom on the stock cooler. You could hit 3.6-3.7GHz before needing an aftermarket.

 

A Phenom II quad core will provide a better multi-tasking experience and shine where games, including several of the ones you actually play (like BF3), are threaded to use more than 2 cores.

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Was gonna edit, but here is the cooler master PSU i had from a previous PC.
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171036
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A Phenom II quad core has a sizable amount of headroom on the stock cooler. You could hit 3.6-3.7GHz before needing an aftermarket.

A Phenom II quad core will provide a better multi-tasking experience and shine where games, including several of the ones you actually play (like BF3), are threaded to use more than 2 cores.

Ya that's what i was thinking personally. AMD is pretty much the best bang for the buck as i can see.
I just can't imagine a 3.0pentium sandy 2core, out performing a 3.8-4.0 OC'ed 965BE AMD.
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Ok that PSU is pretty decent. I don't see much need for replacement.

post #17 of 18
Yeah, that PSU is fine.

As for the dual-core vs quad-core deal - you can't really compare speeds. Intel has higher Instructions Per Clock (IPC) which basically means that at the same speeds, a recent-gen Intel core will out-perform an AMD core. Significantly. This is why it does better in games that can only use two cores, and isn't as bad as it seems compared to the Phenom II x4 in games that can use more than 2 cores.

That said, a Pentium is only going to out-perform a Phenom II x4 in certain games. (As I covered a couple of posts above). I agree with xd that it seems like for the games you play a Phenom II x4 will probably be a little better than a Pentium for your purposes. More expensive too, but it seems like a small enough difference from my perspective.

You sounded a bit poorer in your OP than in recent posts and hadn't mentioned which games you prefer, which is why I recommended the cheaper Pentium initially.
    
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That Pentium is SLOW.
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