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Thread Starter 
Hello, OCN.
Another one noob, looking for help in building liquid cooled system.
Specs Asus Crrosshair V
AMD FX-8350 (this thing will be slighly oced 4500-4700 GHz)
HD 7970 reference design (will be running at stock speeds)
LIan Li PC-9F (going to be cuted, drilled and riveted)
I'm on a limited budget, but few parts i can get really cheap:
radiator Hardware Labs Black Ice GT Xtreme 240 (completely new but it has few scratches on a body) for only 61 USD. Or i cant get Black Ice GT SR-1 240 for 49 USD
Pump Laing DDC-1T 12V DC Pump (MCP 350)
Reservoir EK Water Blocks EK-DDC X-RES 140 CSQ
I have no idea what CPU, GPU blocks to choose, what fittings do i need and what tubings should i get. And another one question. My plan is to use a single 240 mm rad, would it be enough to keep my system cool and quiet?
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Crucial M4 128 Gb WDC WD50 02AALX-00J37A0 SATA-III Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 SATA-II Pioneer DVD-RW-219L 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Zalman CNPS10X Flex 2xGT-AP18 Windows 7 x64 Dell U2311H 23" 1080p Chieftec BPS-950C 950W (Ntro Series) 
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post #2 of 5
You probably want a little more rad than that. If you can go up to a 360 somewhere, or just find somewhere to fit a 120 you should be okay.

The difference between the rads you listed is how tightly the fins are spaced-- the xtreme has tighter spacing, which means you get better cooling but you'll need faster, louder fans to push air through it. Since you're a little short on rad, I'd steer you in that direction.

When it comes to choosing tube and fittings, basically match the inner diameter and outer diameter between them, unless you are using barbs in which case get them a size too big, maybe. Correctly sized barbs work well too, but you need a hose clamp on them. Almost everything will have G1/4" threads for your fittings to screw into. An alternative to barbs are compression fittings-- they're a bit more expensive (5-6 bucks apiece), but they're easier to work with and look pretty.

Beyond that, choose whichever tube and fittings are prettiest and you think will work well. You won't gain much performance from choosing fat tube over skinny tube, but some people think it looks better. Duralene and primochill are good tubing brands.

It's tough to go too far wrong choosing CPU and GPU blocks-- pretty much all of them are good quality, and the performance difference between them is not huge. skinneelabs is a good place to go to look around.
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OCZ Vertex 4 ~ 4 terabytes across 3 drives, not in RAID. 2 ... Water cooled, aquaero 5 LT controller/temp monitor Win7 x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Acer 23.3", 1920x1080 Acer 19", 1440x900 CM Storm Quickfire 700W Cooler Master Silent Pro 
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post #3 of 5
Thread Starter 
So there is no way to keep my system whispering quiet using a single 240 mm rad? I think i can fit 360 mm, i'm not afraid of cutting chassis. But it comes with a price of sacrificing 5.25" drive bay. I was hoping to keep it for hdds mounting. Hard drive capacity is vital for me
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Crucial M4 128 Gb WDC WD50 02AALX-00J37A0 SATA-III Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 SATA-II Pioneer DVD-RW-219L 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Zalman CNPS10X Flex 2xGT-AP18 Windows 7 x64 Dell U2311H 23" 1080p Chieftec BPS-950C 950W (Ntro Series) 
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Crucial M4 128 Gb WDC WD50 02AALX-00J37A0 SATA-III Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 SATA-II Pioneer DVD-RW-219L 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Zalman CNPS10X Flex 2xGT-AP18 Windows 7 x64 Dell U2311H 23" 1080p Chieftec BPS-950C 950W (Ntro Series) 
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post #4 of 5
If you control intelligently, maybe using an aquaero 5, you will be able to keep your fans turning slow most of the time and only have them kick up when your water temp goes up. You'll need powerful fans though, and I'd advise push/pull.

Maybe you could get an external hard drive enclosure? Mount the rad externally?

You don't have to use a 360; you could use the 240 and add a single 120mm rad over one of your fan grills if there's space for it.
Kathis
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2600k Maximus V Formula EVGA GTX 670 Kingston something 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 ~ 4 terabytes across 3 drives, not in RAID. 2 ... Water cooled, aquaero 5 LT controller/temp monitor Win7 x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Acer 23.3", 1920x1080 Acer 19", 1440x900 CM Storm Quickfire 700W Cooler Master Silent Pro 
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NXZT Switch 810 Logitech G9X Yup.  E-MU 1820m running into a Pyle 120wx2 amp, driv... 
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Kathis
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2600k Maximus V Formula EVGA GTX 670 Kingston something 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 ~ 4 terabytes across 3 drives, not in RAID. 2 ... Water cooled, aquaero 5 LT controller/temp monitor Win7 x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Acer 23.3", 1920x1080 Acer 19", 1440x900 CM Storm Quickfire 700W Cooler Master Silent Pro 
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NXZT Switch 810 Logitech G9X Yup.  E-MU 1820m running into a Pyle 120wx2 amp, driv... 
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post #5 of 5
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Traches. I'd like to keep everything inside of the chassis. But i'll think off something to fit triple radiator and the other stuff in.
Aquaero is a very nice addition, but i cant afford it atm.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k@4500 Asus Sabertooth Z87 MSI R9 290X 4G Gaming Corsair Dominator Platinum 2x4 Gb 2133 MHz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Crucial M4 128 Gb WDC WD50 02AALX-00J37A0 SATA-III Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 SATA-II Pioneer DVD-RW-219L 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Zalman CNPS10X Flex 2xGT-AP18 Windows 7 x64 Dell U2311H 23" 1080p Chieftec BPS-950C 950W (Ntro Series) 
CaseAudioAudioOther
Cooler Master CM690 II Creative X-Fi xtreme gamer Microlab Solo 6C Marshall Monitor Headphones 
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Reply
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k@4500 Asus Sabertooth Z87 MSI R9 290X 4G Gaming Corsair Dominator Platinum 2x4 Gb 2133 MHz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Crucial M4 128 Gb WDC WD50 02AALX-00J37A0 SATA-III Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 SATA-II Pioneer DVD-RW-219L 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Zalman CNPS10X Flex 2xGT-AP18 Windows 7 x64 Dell U2311H 23" 1080p Chieftec BPS-950C 950W (Ntro Series) 
CaseAudioAudioOther
Cooler Master CM690 II Creative X-Fi xtreme gamer Microlab Solo 6C Marshall Monitor Headphones 
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