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Cool news as long as there isn't a price hike involved. Mac's are expensive enough as is and as someone who loathes using Windows, there aren’t exactly any other viable options other then paying up.
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Originally Posted by un1b4ll View Post

I'm really excited about this, but I'm confused at how people think this is going to mean a price hike. I don't think people really understand that the pricing model is exactly where Apple intends it to be, to the penny, and that decisions like this aren't made without factoring virtually every variable. It would be quite stupid to think that Apple would do this if it was going to have an impact on their extremely deliberate business.

but if they don't raise the price they will not get the same profit per item. So by doing this they are going to have to take a loss over their existing process...unless they can produce the items in the US at near the cost in China and I don't think that will happen. I also don't think they are going to take a loss either unless they think they can market this to people that would have not otherwise purchased an Apple product...if that doesn't hold true than they will have no choice but to sell it at a higher cost.

I am personally giving the whole idea about a 60% chance of complete failure. Price is typically the number factor considered when buying something...most people will even sacrifice quality by a good margin if the price reflects it. If it succeeds it will be due to marketing, but that is something Apple is VERY good at. Though I don't know if people are as gullable as they used to be either...lol...they've been educated via iPhones and iPads now.
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post #33 of 103
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Understandable as a consumer, but you might be singing a different tune if your job was moved overseas to be done by someone making 1/4 of your income.
As an American, I can support companies trying to strengthen our economy by creating jobs here.
I get that, and as I said ill buy whatever product that is better made and more reliable even if it costs more.
But if lets say the product isn't made as well, is less reliable and costs more but because its made in America you'd prefer that product then I think your a little crazy.
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What if there was no difference in quality? in this case the quality should be about the same since the items will be made from largely the same parts (which will still be made outside the US rolleyes.gif)
Well, I suppose in the beginning there might be issues with the US stuff as they are learning the process...but I also have a feeling that a lot of the processes done by hand in the Foxconn plant will be automated here in the US. As long as the programing and configuration are correct the quality might go up for the US items.
If these actually take off and start selling well...I may have to lift my ban of Apple devices in my household and support their move to the US. However, I am not going waste my money helping out a lost cause if no one else is getting on board with it...I just hope that there aren't a lot of people that share my mind set.

If there's no difference in quality then I'll buy which ever is more accessible for me. Meaning that if the nearest store to me only sold the products made out of this country then ill be buying that, granted I shop mostly online , but you get the idea.
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2. I have apple hating boxers for special occasions, tho they're in the wash.

absolutamente genial

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As one of the commenters said:

"We need more comments that state that assembled in the US is not the same as made in the US. We didn't get it the first 122 times.

You cannot "make" these devices in the US, that capacity was shipped out of the country decades ago, and it ain't coming back."

I think this person makes a good point. Completely manufacturing all the components for an entire line of computers here will be a massive resource drain on Apple. Besides, I admit, Apples last a long time, why would they lower the reliability of their components by having them made here? That would be a massive waste of time and money especially if each American is going to expect to be paid $20/hour or something (exaggeration, maybe) for assembling them. American work ethic is merely a very small fraction of what it was 40-50 years ago but their ego isn't. Either way, by the end of the day, it'll most likely be the Mexicans or other hispanic folk who will be taking these jobs because they will be the most willing to accept lower wages. So much for "assembled in America", right?
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post #35 of 103
Could possibly be the Mac Pro refresh that's moving to the US. It is the largest and most heavies of the Mac line and moving it here would be cheaper on the logistics end. Also they're fairly simple to assemble compared to the other lines. Even though a majority of the internal parts will still be made over seas (Intel processors for instance, obviously are all built over seas) more than likely the case parts will be machined here along with the assembly.

Systemax, who assembles all of their desktops here in the US, we purchased a bunch of their pre-builts for work starting about 3 years ago and they're still going strong. Sadly, I heard they're ending their desktop lines here next year, but at least Systemax as a company will still be here for a while since they're part of that whole subsidiary that owns TigerDirect and all associated with that, so support shouldn't be an issue if it comes up, but so far, all of their machines have been maintenance free for me.
post #36 of 103
A trend that follows for premium products, use BMW Spartanburg,SC, it is now the world's assembly of X5/X6(which are awesome BTW).

Great move by Apple, as moving services/products in states serves to strengthen the USA. thumb.gif Hopefully, "Made in USA" becomes analogous to the Green fad nowadays.
 
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vaguely confirming that production of either iMacs, Mac Minis or Mac Laptops will make a wholesale move to the US in 2013.

Some how I really doubt it'd be their more popular and thus most profitable lines; I can see it being the Mac Pro or maybe the Mini.
 
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Moving to the US will incur higher labor costs, but as mentioned before, several car companies already manufacture and build cars in the US, and still remain competitive (Honda, Ford, BMW, etc.)
 
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How anyone in the U.S. could complain about more job possibilities here is beyond me. Yes, they will just be assembled in the U.S. and not fully made here, but that doesn't matter. I'd rather pay a little more and support America getting more jobs, than pay a little less and have all the jobs sent overseas, because right now those are our only options.

And seeing as the majority of people that complain about Apple here, continually say they won't buy Apple products no matter what, this doesn't hurt you one bit now does it?

I know in Virginia Beach right now, it's dang hard to find a reliable job that will keep you on longer than a month until they have to cut pay or even fire people ( and when you're new on a job, unless you've made a great impression, the new guy is always the first to go ).
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Moving to the US will incur higher labor costs, but as mentioned before, several car companies already manufacture and build cars in the US, and still remain competitive (Honda, Ford, BMW, etc.)

You don't think that that is because it costs a heck of lot more money to ship a car across the ocean then an Apple product? The the Apple products are typically flown, but there are probably 50,000 devices on one plane.

I've assumed the cars started to be made here because it was cheaper than shipping them 1000 at a time on big boat.
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