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No. That was probably like 3' or 4' away in the furthest back picture I posted and at 50% brightness. I suppose I should turn it down, but I quite like it around 40% to 50% brightness. At 25% brightness and 6' away, you can't really see any back light bleeding. Unfortunately, do to this stand, I have to sit pretty close to it. I do play in all dark typically, but it doesn't really bother me that is glows a bit. I think I'll just hang on to it. It looks fine to me. As far as the gamma goes, this must be a fair bit off, as all of the boxes are pretty easy to tell apart. I suppose it's not the end of the world and not much I can do about it without spending additional money (which I don't really want to do).

also, do you plan on doing a review on this monitor soon? I'd be curious to hear you thoughts in detail.
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also, do you plan on doing a review on this monitor soon? I'd be curious to hear you thoughts in detail.

Mine should arrive on Friday which is kind of unfortunate since I am still dealing Samsung since my 850D dropped frames. The VP2770 has been out of stock for over a month, was hoping I could get my case resolved with Samsung first before the Viewsonic shipped. Oh well, I will have 30 days to decide to return it.

I doubt I will create a full review since I have to finish my U2713H and VG248QE review (have to send it back to Asus soon) and papers+exams are coming up from university, but I will definitely measure the color presets (have to to see what I need to adjust for calibration) and provide an ICC profile plus more settings to try.

My CrossOver 2720MDP does not overshoot and it streaks considerably less than both the Asus PB278Q and Samsung S27A850D I've tested, regardless of which overdrive settings are used. It will be interesting to see how the VP2770 compares in more useful synthetic tests (PixPerAn chase test and Mark's blur busters tests which he lets me use smile.gif) other than the PixPerAn car test which isn't really useful. It will be interesting to to see if I can feel how much faster the VP2770 is vs. my CrossOver (>1 frame delay with pixel response times) and how it feels vs. the delay free VG248QE @60hz. Synthetic tests (pixperan & blur busters) only take a few minutes.

As far as gamma variances/how much difference lower average gamma makes I can only compare my CrossOver (near perfect 2.2 gamma after calibration) vs. the VG248QE which is a TN and suffers from vertical gamma shift at the moment. I would need another IPS/PLS or to set-up my CRT and calibrate it to a lower gamma to see how much visible difference lower values make.
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I'm thinking of buying a 1440. I'm down to Asus PB278Q, U2713HM & VP2770.

Now I've read that TTFT Central input lag readings are incorrect?



PB278Q - 16.6
U2713HM - 22.2
VP2770 - 26.2


What site offers reviews of monitors using accurate methods of measuring input lag might I be directed to?

I'm very confused on which monitor. Each seem to have their own sets of quality control headaches. The VP2770 is $740 compared to the PB278Q at $649. I almost pulled the plug too soon and decided I need to do some more homework.

My monitor will be used primarily for gaming FPS 70% and MMO 30%, along with streaming multimedia, & watching blu-ray movies.

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Also are these response times correct?

PB278Q - 5ms
U2713HM - 8ms
VP2770 - 12ms
     
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Also are these response times correct?

PB278Q - 5ms
U2713HM - 8ms
VP2770 - 12ms

No. PB278Q and VP2770 use the same panel, so when their overdrive function is set to the same setting, their response time is nearly identical. Of course, overdrive is adjusted by each manufacturer so it might differ slightly, but VP2770 set to ultra fast will have the same 5 ms response time as the PB278Q.
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Also are these response times correct?

Those are manufacturer response times, they are usually about as reliable as dynamic contrast ratios. For your other questions refer to the first post+page, you will find all the answers there.
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Those are manufacturer response times, they are usually about as reliable as dynamic contrast ratios. For your other questions refer to the first post+page, you will find all the answers there.


Thank you for your answer. Found your links to two of the three monitors I've been tossing around. Very helpful and informative.

I'm still very undecided to which would be the best for me.
     
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I'm still very undecided to which would be the best for me.

If you can't spend more than 700$ and don't mind exchanging monitors a few times get the Dell. If you want the best 2560x1440 display get the Viewsonic, especially for FPS gaming since it has half the signal delay as the others.

If you watch blu-rays on a PS3/external blu-ray player the U2713HM is one of the only 1440p monitors with proper 1080p@24hz judder free playback.
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Thank you for your answer. Found your links to two of the three monitors I've been tossing around. Very helpful and informative.

I'm still very undecided to which would be the best for me.

I think the Dell is the only one out of your 3 choices that has DisplayPort input AND DisplayPort output that allows for monitor daisy chaining.
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Lol, that's the exact quote I keep hearing.

2560x1440/1600 is a huge step up from 1080p or 1200p, regardless of whether you are primarily gaming, working, or even just browsing the web. Being able to have four documents open without cutting off any of their edges is incredible!!
Also, while it does indeed require a rather powerful graphics solution, keep in mind that the pixel density is rather high, particularly on 1440p displays, enough that I find that anything more than maybe 2x AA is unnecessary! In fact, I find it hard to perceive any difference between 2xAA and 16xAA on a 1440p display from more than about 6" away from the screen. This is a great thing, as it allows your GPU('s) to focus on making everything else look that much prettier! thumb.gif


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1080p on anything greater than a 15" laptop is just wrong. When I see large TVs (60"+) with 1080P I just cringe even though its not as noticeable since you sit several feet back.

wth.gif

Sorry, but I just can't take this seriously... I know I, for one, don't have $20,000 to drop on a 4Kx2K television, nor do I have any native 4K video... Instead, I have a beautiful 55" LG LED-LCD "Smart"-TV with local dimming that is hooked up to my HD-DVR, Blu-Ray Player, 360, PS3, all courtesy of an 11.4ch Receiver powering 11 speakers and 2 dual-subs with a trio of McIntosh amplifiers ("interpolating" the Front-High and Front-Wide channels)...

Oh, but crap, it's only 1080p... MY GOD, HOW have I LIVED with myself?!?!
I guess I should just grab one of my AR's and go dump a few mags into the setup because I'm doing it completely wrong, huh?

Oh well, you learn from your mistakes... Time to sell a kidney so I can have a "proper" television, it's not like it matters that NO content is available...
   
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Oh, but crap, it's only 1080p... MY GOD, HOW have I LIVED with myself?!?!
I guess I should just grab one of my AR's and go dump a few mags into the setup because I'm doing it completely wrong, huh?

Oh well, you learn from your mistakes... Time to sell a kidney so I can have a "proper" television, it's not like it matters that NO content is available...

I think you took that a little too seriously. lol
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