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Nope the POINT is, when you get AMD rig, you get it for the lower price, but actually your paying more on other parts, and electricity, overclocked 8350, will pull like 150W more then stock locked i5, and maybe even more. So in short, no savings at all, and no logic to get "best" bung for buck...keep in mind i said if you build rig from scratch, not if you already have PSU.
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You can disagree as much as you like, AMD rig is a mistake, even locked i5 based rig is better then unlocked 8350, its NOT only about raw CPU power, its about better chipset/drivers/USB/SATA controllers (native Intel)
While you think you will "save up" some money on AMD/8350, if you buy rig from scratch, for overclocked 8350, you will need to pay at least 30$ more for more powerful PSU, and you will spend the same money and even more on electricity bills so no there are no savings at all with AMD on a long run!

Way to get mad at me politely disagreeing with you.

You won't save money on power unless the op is running his rig really hard 24/7. If the op has the habit of keeping his computer on he will actually save money with an fx 8320 because they have better idle power consumption than a 3570k.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/7

Yeah your max power consumption is high but honestly unless you are folding or benching all day it won't really matter.

As for the chipset thing, it really doesn't matter unless if you are running a multi gpu config or high end ram (neither of which are luxuries that a budget build will be concerned with). The drivers work just as well for AMD so I have no idea what you are talking about.
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I talk about memory transfer, SSD performance, Intel NIC/LAN performance and general drivers quality/stability.

i wont go into details, been there done that, sorry AMD rigs can't match Intel, its a fact, look at the rigs as whole package, not just cpu performance..
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post #24 of 72
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You can disagree as much as you like, AMD rig is a mistake, even locked i5 based rig is better then unlocked 8350, its NOT only about raw CPU power, its about better chipset/drivers/USB/SATA controllers (native Intel)
While you think you will "save up" some money on AMD/8350, if you buy rig from scratch, for overclocked 8350, you will need to pay at least 30$ more for more powerful PSU, and you will spend the same money and even more on electricity bills so no there are no savings at all with AMD on a long run!

mind you this is a delidded i5 . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1333027/amd-fx-8350-vs-i5-3570k-single-gpu-and-crossfire-gpu

some 83XX series can clock to 5GHz.
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Nope the POINT is, when you get AMD rig, you get it for the lower price, but actually your paying more on other parts, and electricity, overclocked 8350, will pull like 150W more then stock locked i5, and maybe even more. So in short, no savings at all, and no logic to get "best" bung for buck...keep in mind i said if you build rig from scratch, not if you already have PSU.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1333027/amd-fx-8350-vs-i5-3570k-single-gpu-and-crossfire-gpu

Op look at that thread. The 8320 is a slightly undercooked 8350. Depending on the game and task the 8350 trades blows with a 3570k. Unless if you are going to be running it 24/7 at close to max load I wouldn't worry about load power consumption.

There is savings to be had. The 8320 can reach 4.5ghz almost every time and at that clock it looks pretty darn good compared to a 45 dollar more processor. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

Your locked i5 wouldn't compare to the 3570k at 4.5ghz.
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post #26 of 72
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I talk about memory transfer, SSD performance, Intel NIC/LAN performance and general drivers quality/stability.
i wont go into details, been there done that, sorry AMD rigs can't match Intel, its a fact, look at the rigs as whole package, not just cpu performance..

It's a fact? Im sorry but relevant proof?
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That comparasion is almost useless, no CPU intensive games, no multiplayer, no RPG games.
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It's a fact? Im sorry but relevant proof?

If you changed back and forth from Intel to AMD and AMD to Intel like me you will notice it.....Intel offer tons of more features.
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post #28 of 72
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That comparasion is almost useless, no CPU intensive games, no multiplayer, no RPG games.
If you changed back and forth from Intel to AMD and AMD to Intel like me you will notice it.....Intel offer tons of more features.

Dude you are running a 4.8 ghz 2600k. Your experience isn't going to be anything like a 3550p. My buddy has a 2500k that he doesn't overclock and to be honest the performance isn't impressive in anything except lowly threaded games.
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post #29 of 72
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That comparasion is almost useless, no CPU intensive games, no multiplayer, no RPG games.
If you changed back and forth from Intel to AMD and AMD to Intel like me you will notice it.....Intel offer tons of more features.

Dude you are running a 4.8 ghz 2600k. Your experience isn't going to be anything like a 3550p. My buddy has a 2500k that he doesn't overclock and to be honest the performance isn't impressive in anything except lowly threaded games.
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post #30 of 72
Heh, here I am saying this again.

Go for a AMD APU...the A10-5800 is about $120. Then you will even have some moderate graphics capabilities until you get the GPU. And when you get the GPU will still have a very capable quad core to run it.

It seems not many people ever consider this route. Is there a reason why? I've built several socket F2 systems for people lately and I've been really impressed with what I got for the money.
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