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Ok cool. And for this out of case test ill be ok only usin the 240 rad ? When it boots (hopefully) I won't have sad connected so what should I see? Just bios screen and maybe status of components?

Also how long after I turn it off should I wait to drain the test loop? In case of leak and spillage on components with residual charge?
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Okay, so, what you want to do is this:

1. Connect all of the components together (Mobo/CPU/GPU/RAM/HDD/SSD)
2. Create your loop.
3. Fill your loop and prime pump. Do this by jumping the Power Supply ON pin with any GND (ground) pin. Green wire and black wire, use a paper clip.
4. Once there is water throughout your loop, plug the 24 pin connector into your motherboard. Make sure to remove the paper clip.
5. Turn computer on. MAKE SURE PUMP TURS ON WITH YOUR COMPUTER!
6. You will have to press a button on your keyboard to open the BIOS. It is usually delete key or F1 or F10.
7. Configure your BIOS, set storage to ACHI, set XMP profile in RAM. Don't mess with overclocking at this point.
8. At this point, I would go ahead and install windows since it is the easiest to do when stuff is out of your case.
9. Once windows is installed, download GPUz and the other one (can't remember what it is). Make sure everything is recognized.

Any questions? smile.gif I tried to do it as simple as possible!

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Haha thank you that was exactly what I needed Jeff!!! Couple questions though. Why is windows easier to install when loop outside of case? Secondly I'm a little worried having this test loop running so long because I'm paranoid about it all being outside case as well as only cooled by one rad. About how long does a windows install take? Also the XMp profile I'm unfamiliar with but shouldn't be too hard to google tongue.gif. I know this board can support 2400 ram but it is not listed as a default support so will that cause any issues in booting up? Do I have to overclock to achieve comparability with 2400 ram or can I just adjust settings in bios to accept that?

Thanks a lot man
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hey guys so the nixeus monitor didnt work out and order was cancelled few days ago so today i just ordered the asus PB278Q and got one day shipping so it will arrive with my koolance stuff tomorrow... stay tuned!
post #86 of 140
Hmm... well it does look like you are using the correct connector (the 4pin molex). I honestly don't know why it isn't working frown.gif

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the 3 pin is not causing the problem right? these pumps should at least be able to start absent a mobo connection.... these are the "450s" instead of "450" though and not sure if that may be something that is affecting this...
if you guys have any ideas please let me know cause i completely a fish out of water when it comes to some of this electrical type stuff
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Originally Posted by jmoria59 View Post

the 3 pin is not causing the problem right? these pumps should at least be able to start absent a mobo connection.... these are the "450s" instead of "450" though and not sure if that may be something that is affecting this...
if you guys have any ideas please let me know cause i completely a fish out of water when it comes to some of this electrical type stuff
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Originally Posted by Koolance Discussion Forums View Post

The "S" version is a bit stronger, but will dump more heat into the loop.

PMP-450:
* Maximum Flow Rate: 14L/min (3.7 gal/min) @ 12V, 17L/min (4.5 gal/min) @ 24V
* Maximum Head Pressure: 4m (13ft)
* Motor: Brushless DC, electronically commutated, spherical motor
* Expected Lifetime: 50,000 hrs. MTBF (5.7 years)
* Voltage Range: 8 to 24 VDC
* Startup Voltage: 9 to 13.2 VDC
* Maximum Power Consumption: 35W @ 24VDC
* Maximum System Pressure: 3.5 kgf/cm2 (50 PSI)
* Maximum Temperature: 60°C (140°F)
* Electrical Connector: 4-pin Molex power supply connection
* Hose Connections: 13mm (1/2") ID hose barbs
* Weight: 862g (1.9lbs)

PMP-450S:
* Maximum Flow Rate: 17.4L/min (4.6 gal/min) @ 12V, 22.3L/min (5.9 gal/min) @ 24V
* Maximum Head Pressure: 4.9m (16ft) @ 12V, 5.6m (18.5ft) @ 24V
* Motor: Brushless DC, electronically commutated, spherical motor
* Expected Lifetime: 50,000 hrs. MTBF (5.7 years)
* Voltage Range: 8 to 25 VDC
* Startup Voltage: 9 to 13.2 VDC
* Maximum Power Consumption: 52.5W @ 25VDC
* Maximum System Pressure: 3.5 kgf/cm2 (50 PSI)
* Maximum Temperature: 60°C (140°F)
* Electrical Connector: 4-pin Molex power supply connection + 3-pin (single lead) tach
* Hose Connections: 13mm (1/2") ID hose barbs
* Weight: 862g (1.9lbs)

The only difference is the power, the "S" version is a little stronger.

Can you try just one pump at all?

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post #89 of 140
The 3pin is the RPM signal. No need to connect it right now. My guess is that you did't jumpstart the PSU correctly. You can buy a pre-made 24-pin jumpstarter for that reason.

Can you connect something else just to check that you have power supply? A fan or something with lights lets say.
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i thought the same thing except i then plugged in the optical drive and ssd at the same time as the pumps and jumped it, and instantly optical drive lights went on and i was able to open and everything but the pumps still had no power... i know there is no way both of them are defective so thats why i am continuing to search for solution...

btw just for verification.. are molex connectors supposed to be difficult to put on? im positive i have the right connections but it just seemed odd that it was such a pita to put on...

secondly im using the molex connector that came with psu and it is one cable with like 4 molex connectors attched to it.... not sure if that is an issue or not... i could try and use two cables separately for each pump but ive already tried only operating one pump and that still didnt work...

the psu is jumping but maybe there is another connection that needs to be bridged? idk... fans definitly spin up and i have powered on other things so it seems that that is not the issue...when jumping the psu in this fashion is there maybe only limited power output which is not quite enough for even one pump? couldnt imagine this but i guess possible...

i may power up fan controller and then connect the 3 pins just to see if that does remedy the situation.. as ive said these are the "S" version pumps and on koolance it says these are the ones recommended if you do not plan to have them controlled by external pump controller or something??? maybe this has an effect idk.... and these pumps would start even if there was not water gettign to them right? im fairly positive they have water in them but just hypothetically speaking... they would still try and run and then break right? the res is filled and water has gone through the loop to some parts so t should be passing through the pump areas...

there also may be a specific port on psu that the molex has to plug into??? doubtful but possible i suppose... ive tried a couple different ones but no cigar...

i also have a separate cabkle pack from corsair in white that i havent tried but as ive tried all 4 of the molex cables in the pack it came with, i really doubt that will make a difference...

has anyone actually used these specific pumps before? did anything have to eb done to them upon installation that i maybe overlooked???

this sucks so please continue to offer help if you can!!!!

thanks
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