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The future of labor, no matter how you look at it, will be mostly automated and robotics. For now, companies can exploit countries rising into the world economy with their cheap labor and lack of regulations, but in the future, people wont want to work for pennies and will demand better pay. Thats where robotics come in, they work for free besides operation costs like maintenance, electricity, and operators. Now, thats assuming we don't have a machine uprising and have battlestar galatica type situation on our hands.
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I should have been more clear that the cost only may increase. It is quite possible that the cost does not increase at all, or even lowers simply because machines are much more productive than people. A machine can work 24/7, does not require a lunch break, does not complain, does not commit suicide, does not go on strike, and does not ask for a raise. Many companies can be more productive through capital expenditures but simply do not have the funds to do so. I don't think Foxconn will have any trouble, since they have been a major supplier for Apple for some time now and are sharing some of that wealth.

The only problem I could foresee would be the rapid changing of the manufacturing process. As new products are developed, would the older equipment be usable? If it were possible, how much would the modifications cost to ramp production for new products?

I still believe that the this business decision was well thought-out and in the interests of the shareholders. It would not surprise me if placing factories in the US decreases costs overall and the social implications are an added bonus.

Just look at the car industry, highly automated, and every year they make a new model. Same process would apply here, but it will really be impressive when its MADE here too, not just assembled. But thats not really possible with our modern international world
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I don't know what is worse...a product made by an overworked, underpaid, sweat shop worker or by an overpaid, lazy, self entitled union worker.
 
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IF they want to the last one, they build a factory in USA china. they name cities in china USA now so they can slap on made in USA stickers.

If my memory serves me correct Japan did this decades ago when they were the "tech" leaders.

Names a city U.S.A. to put made in U.S.A.. I do believe the had to use the dots after each letter so they where not blacklised with their products entering the U.S..

NOw this is a story I was told many moons ago. But if it os true they probably hold the rights to Made in "U.S.A."
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Can't APL just cut their own profit? xD
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I don't know what is worse...a product made by an overworked, underpaid, sweat shop worker or by an overpaid, lazy, self entitled union worker.

Dear god the prejudice...

edit: The building of a new factory anywhere offers the chance to re-optimize for efficiency. That coupled with a higher number of skilled technicians to run automated equipment means you can employ tens of people to do the same job as hundreds (or even thousands) of unskilled workers. Plus current unemployment rates means you can hire them for cheaper too.

Bottom line is the bottom line. Sure PR can play a part but the benefits are fleeting when you consider the long-term cost of a factory.
Edited by un-midas touch - 12/7/12 at 12:01am
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I don't know what is worse...a product made by an overworked, underpaid, sweat shop worker or by an overpaid, lazy, self entitled union worker.

rolleyes.gif

You supported the players in the NFL lockout did you?
Guess what 'collective bargaining' is a fancy term for....

What people here don't get is the gap between China and US in terms of manufacturing jobs is narrowing fast..
This has been happening for a while now.

US businesses aren't shifting jobs back to the US because they feel nice.

It's because of the above and it means they have better control over the manufacturing process in QA and of course, better protection of intellectual property.
Another factor is the slow shipping as of late of Chinese exports.

Too many people on the Internets know very little about 'real life' business it's annoying.
Edited by chinesekiwi - 12/7/12 at 12:07am
post #38 of 53
I love how so many people think that prices will go up. Prime example is Toyota, they bought factories from the failing American companies then began to actually manufacture the cars over here and still kept prices low. Scion xA (my car I bought in '06) sold for $12,000 BRAND NEW. I owned that car up untill July of this year with zero issues at all. It is actually quite embaressing when a foreign company can out do an American on our own soil.

Foxconn doing this can only help us as it will provide revenue in America as well as jobs. More companies need to be doing this and taking advantage of the opporunities in America.
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made in USA.

By machines.
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I still won't buy their products.
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