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Yes, and they in general are good but too many people have been brainwashed into thinking they aren't.

Unions have a rather large tradeoff lets look at an example

Worker "A" lets call him Bob has worked hard all his life, but now, he has been hurt on the job. If Bob is in a Union, he will be able to recover and go back to work, however if he wasn't in one and the company feels like being a prick, Bob will be out of work.

That is the benefit of a Union, now for the Downsides (This is a true story btw)

There are two teachers, Mr. Smith and Mr. Black, Now Mr. Smith has only been a Teacher for about 3-4 years, however all of his students love him and they pass state testing with the highest rating possible. Now, Mr. Black has been a teacher for over 30 years and his dated methods are only getting his students to barely pass their exams. Due to poor academic performance, the School he was at was shut down. Now you would think that, Mr. Black would be laid off right? Wrong. Based on only the amount of years they have worked there, Mr. Black replaces Mr. Smith as a teacher and Mr. Smith is laid off

TL;DR Unions are good for protecting hard workers, However, they also protect Lazy and Unskilled workers based on Seniority
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Unions have a rather large tradeoff lets look at an example
Worker "A" lets call him Bob has worked hard all his life, but now, he has been hurt on the job. If Bob is in a Union, he will be able to recover and go

and this is negated by universal healthcare via workplace accident cover everywhere else in the world but hey....
I am more than happy to pay a tiny part of my wage to it.

Also the 'protection of lazy workers' part is really due to bad balancing of laws, i.e. protection of the employer.
Lack of unions result in wage suppression. It's extremely laughable / sad that a lot of states in the US do not raise the minimum wage with inflation.

As you know if you've even been in business, wages are only a small part of your costs, it is the commodity costs that FAR outweigh it, unless of course you commodity costs IS the labour e.g. construction labour companies, professional sport teams via players and coaching staff.

Those who support the players in lockouts yet are anti-union.....rolleyes.gif
Oh the irony.
Edited by chinesekiwi - 12/7/12 at 11:48am
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Only 9.4% of Americans are in unions. There's probably no way this new factory will hire union.

Plus this makes your (edit: you guys') points irrelevant.
Edited by un-midas touch - 12/8/12 at 5:23pm
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